On 7/14/07, Larry Stone wrote: > But it's always been clear that AOL assumes everyone outside is a spammer.
The scary thing was that, when I was working there, every few months we'd get a whole new raft of VPs in the company, they'd all get sick and tired of the spam they were getting, and they'd all pressure us to implement all sorts of damn stupid ideas that had been reviewed and rejected years ago. We got to the point where we had a very long multi-page FAQ that we'd send to every single VP who ever broached the subject with us, and that would usually shut them up. When the VPs of the company can't be bothered to even try to understand the problem well enough to know what additional viable measures can be applied, and pressure you to do all sorts of damn stupid stuff, there's only so long that the people with any clue can survive. > They probably can't get their minds around the idea that some of their own > customers subscribe to lists and then mark them as spam when they no longer > want them rather than properly unsubscribing. And that we, as responsible > list owners, want to get them off our lists. Most of their decisions are made by the marketing department, and have no grounding whatsoever in anything remotely resembling reality. Besides, Goodmail pays them money for every Goodmail-signed message that they accept, so it's in their financial best interests to ensure that only Goodmail can send e-mail to them. So far as they're concerned, it's perfectly fine for them to pimp out their customers to Goodmail senders. > I know some will disagree but if it comes to it, then I just make it clear > that I don't accept AOL users as subscribers. If they want to subscribe, > they will have to do so from a "real" ISP. For as long as I worked at AOL, and ever since, I always tried to encourage people with half a brain to go somewhere else. I even finally got my Mom off AOL. -- Brad Knowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Consultant & Author LinkedIn Profile: <http://tinyurl.com/y8kpxu> Slides from Invited Talks: <http://tinyurl.com/tj6q4> 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 ------------------------------------------------------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp