Cyndi Norwitz writes: > I do not wish to take over the list with meta-discussion but your > comments are completely uncalled for.
Since you misunderstand what I wrote, as well as the consequences of what you wrote, I have to disagree. > When I found this mailing list, it appeared to be a general > discussion list for Mailman users. As I said before, if I was > mistaken about the purpose of the list then I hope Mark or another > list owner will correct me and guide me to a more appropriate > venue. It *is* the right place. There is none more appropriate. If there were, you would have been told so a week ago. The problem here is that you haven't brought all of the relevant information to the table. That's not your fault, you don't have it. What is a misguided choice is refusing to "bother" the only people who can provide that information. The worst thing that can happen is they might say "no", right? > And, actually, my ISP's prices are not dirt cheap, though they are > reasonable. What I said is they would be more expensive if they were paying for Mailman. Let's not kill the goose that lays the golden eggs. Which could happen; cf. Brad's post for pointers to *un*reasonable vendors who distribute Mailman. As I wrote before, I don't fault anyone for free riding; to everything there is a season, including paybacks for free software you have benefitted from. Their time will surely come, in its time. But you can help by asking them to get in touch with Mailman when it's appropriate. This would have been a good time. > I like them because they're good people. In which case, they won't mind contributing a few minutes to reading your threads to make sure there's nothing the Mailman support staff needs to know, right? > FWIW, I also give away countless hours of my time doing work I > could be getting paid for. It's not about money. It's not about who has paid their dues or where. I believe, and have throughout, that when you (you, personally) have something to contribute to Mailman, you will. If you know what it is. I'm telling you one thing you (and anyone in your situation) can do right now: save Mark time by getting your ISP's staff involved, at least to the extent of a CC. They're the only ones who can say exactly what those local changes are so they and the Mailman staff can try to figure out whether they do or don't impact your problems and solutions. The work can be done without that information, but it's harder and more frustrating. Unnecessarily so, as far as we know until you get in touch with your ISP. Regards, ------------------------------------------------------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
