Mark, My apologies, I should have noted that - I have Bounce Processing turned off - I have the -bounces address forwarding to the -owner address. With Bounce Processing off I still needed bounce messages to go back to the list owner |/var/qmail/bin/preline /var/qmail/bin/mm_wrapper /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman owner [LISTNAME]
| -----Original Message----- | From: Mark Sapiro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 12:45 AM | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; mailman-users@python.org | Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Bounce Message, ReturnPath/ErrorsTo issue | | Michael Kabotwrote: | | >Configuration | >- CentOS 5 64 bit | >- Mailman 2.1.9 | >- Qmail with Plesk 8.3 mods | > | >I have an interesting bounce issue occurring. | >- Email is sent to a Mailman List | >- List sends to each address | >- One of the addresses bounces | >- The bounce message ends with the right FROM and TO headers, but the | wrong | >RETURN-PATH and ERRORS-TO headers. | > | >Is this a Mailman or Qmail issue? | > | >Here is the bounce message | > | >------------------ | >Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | >Received: (qmail 28263 invoked from network); 2 Jul 2008 14:46:36 - | 0400 | >Received: from localhost (HELO [MAIL.RIGHTDOMAIN.COM]) (127.0.0.1) | > by localhost with SMTP; 2 Jul 2008 14:46:36 -0400 | | | It looks like below here up to my next comment are the actual bounce | notice headers with Return-Path: <> indicating a null envelope from | which should be the case for a normal bounce. | | The headers above here look like Mailman received this bounce and | resent it to a list owner. When sending to a list owner, Mailman sets | the envelope from the site list (mailman) -bounces address. Is | [WRONGDOMAIN.COM] the domain of the site list? Neither [RIGHTDOMAIN.COM] or [WRONGDOMAIN.COM] are the domain of the 'mailman' site list. [WRONGDOMAIN.COM] is coincidentally the last add_virtualhost line of my config file. Where in the code are these being added to the -owner address? | | >Return-Path: <> | >Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | >Received: (qmail 28252 invoked for bounce); 2 Jul 2008 14:46:34 -0400 | >Date: 2 Jul 2008 14:46:34 -0400 | >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | >Subject: failure notice | | | And the header below may have also been added by Mailman in resending. | | | >Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | > | | | The thing that's strange in all the above is that Mailman (at least | standard GNU Mailman) doesn't redirect bounces like this. It sends a | totally new message to the list owner with the original bounce | attached. | | Also, assuming [BADEMAIL ADDRESS]: in the notice was enclosed in <> as | in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:, it would not have been an unrecognized bounce | in 2.1.9. | | Is this Mailman 2.1.9 installed from our distribution, or is it a Plesk | or other package? I think the modification of -bounces to -owner and Bounce Processing turned off would explain the format above. In Service, Michael Kabot President - SOAR [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------------------------------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9