Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: >Mark Sapiro writes: > > > For Mailman 2.2, I am considering changing the Sender: header from the > > LIST-bounces address to the LIST posting address. > >IMO the list-post address is semantically inappropriate. The sender >header is the mailbox of the agent that injected the message and >presumably would want to know about problems. That's not the list >membership.
That's a good point, even though current RFCs (RFC3464, RFC3834) say that DSNs and and other automatic responses should go to the envelope sender of the original message, not the Sender: address. >I think a better idea is to use a less geeky name like LIST-admin for >the bounce recipient. That's already taken, you might say, but in >fact I think it works. This has several advantages IMO: Actually, in Mailman 2.1.x, LIST-admin is a deprecated synonym for LIST-bounces so we could just put LIST-admin in the Sender: header (and "undeprecate" it) and nothing would change except >3. On broken MUAs it reads correctly: "From list-ad...@example.com on > behalf of aut...@net.invalid". I'm not sure I understand the following: >4. Recipients whose MUAs CC the sender can be automatically disabled, > too! (Maybe that's not a great idea for corporate MLs where > people are using Blackberrys and other such common offenders, but > I often wish I could!) Presumably, a CCd post would not be recognizable as a DSN, so whether it was sent to LIST-admin, LIST-bounces or LIST-owner, it would end up going to the human owners/moderators at least if bounce_unrecognized_goes_to_list_owner is Yes. However, if the Sender: were VERP like as in list-admin+rcpt=example....@list.example.com, the return could be recognized, but I think that defeats the purpose of having a non-geeky Sender:. If the issue would truly be resolved or at least mitigated by having the Sender: be list-ad...@list.example.com instead of list-boun...@list.example.com, that's a really easy change that wouldn't have any unintended side effects. -- Mark Sapiro <m...@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan ------------------------------------------------------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
