On 8/7/2009 5:44 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: >>> (There's no good reason for *any* mailman program to be on anybody's >>> PATH, so yes, just having /bin/mailmanctl makes your installation >>> nonstandard.)
>> Hmmm... Mark didn't seem to agree... he said: > First, if you're sure you know why Mark said what he did, consider him > authoritative. Heh... I know enough to know that I'm not sure of anything... > However, in this case, I was assuming that Mark simply took you at > your word that mailmanctl lives in /bin, not in something like > /usr/lib/mailman/bin (which is where it is on Debian; it is also > visible at /var/lib/mailman/bin). My point was simply that normally > Mailman functions are invoked from CGI scripts, the MTA, or an init > script, so having the full path is not a burden. None of the Mailman > servers I have access to have /bin/mailmanctl, so I believe it's > nonstandard (at the very least I would expect it to be in /sbin, more > likely /usr/sbin, and most likely, for the reasons mentioned, in none > of them :-). In Gentoo, it lives in /usr/lib64/mailman/bin > The word "nonstandard" was not meant to be critical of your setup, > except as far as it makes our advice less accurate. I know, and no offense taken... I did say 'on gentoo'... I totally understand different distros do things differently. But I was using the init script that gentoo installed, and no one on the gentoo forums could figure out why it wouldn't start. Something broke during the 2.1.9 > 2.1.10 upgrade, and I've been trying to fix it ever since... well, I took a look at it for 15 or 20 minutes, 2 or 3 times (whenever I had to reboot) over the last 2 years, but since I could start it manually, and hardly ever reboot, it wasn't a priority. There's an upgrade available for 2.1.12 now, so I'll see what happens when I upgrade this time. At least I'll know what to do if it changes the init script back and still won't start. > (My preference is to run the oldest OS that can run my services, <shudder> I'm the exact opposite... ain't it grand that there's a distro for every one out there somewhere? ;) -- Best regards, Charles ------------------------------------------------------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
