On 1/21/2011 1:15 AM, Khalil Abbas wrote: > well, attached are parts of the error and qrunner logs.. I also forgot > to mention that I also delete the following files: > > rm /var/lib/mailman/data/*.pck -f
This was covered in my reply at <http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2011-January/071032.html> > rm /var/lock/mailman/*.* -f Doing this also removes the master lock whose purpose is to prevent you from starting multiple sets of qrunners. This is bad. > the first one also eats up my little space on the hard drive, and the > other locks the lists n they can’t send.. Also, if lists are being left locked by dead processes, this indicates there are other problems. Do you suffer frequent power outages? > what I need to know, why the subscribers are being removed? is it > because of misconfiguration of mailman? or because of outside MTA’s like > yahoo and hotmail rejecting mail from my servers because I need to > control the flow of messages going out from my servers? You also need to know the underlying causes of all the anomalous things that are occurring in your installation. There are serious problems. Your logs may help. Also see FAQs <http://wiki.list.org/x/_4A9> for info on completely stopping Mailman and starting only after completely stopped and <http://wiki.list.org/x/noA9> for lock information. If you set bounce_notify_owner_on_disable to Yes on your lists, the list owner will be sent a notice whenever a member's delivery is disabled by bounce. This notice will contain the triggering bounce message. That should help you diagnose the cause. > another thing worth to mention, the servers are not blocked by hotmail > because I sent single test messages from all my servers to some of my > subscribers that were removed from my lists and they received them with > no problems.. Possibly your MTA is treating the "temporary failure" throttling status used by some large ISPs to rate limit your mail as a hard failure and returning a failure DSN to Mailman. The only thing in your error log was one unparseable message which has nothing to do with any of this. From your qrunner log, I see a SIGHUP from log rotation at Jan 16 04:02:54 2011. Then Mailman is stopped at Jan 16 18:17:53 2011, and started at Jan 16 18:19:41 2011. Then I see Jan 17 00:08:48 2011 (2666) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit (pid: 2712, sig: 6, sts: None, class: BounceRunner, slice: 1/1) [restarting] which says BounceRunner died with Signal 6 (SIGABRT). If it wasn't manually killed, there should be a corresponding error log entry, but the only entry in the error log you provided is from Dec 26 which indicates you weren't looking at the current error log. Then we see a sequence Jan 17 17:11:34 2011 Mailman stopped Jan 17 17:13:29 2011 Mailman started Jan 17 20:29:32 2011 Mailman stopped Jan 17 20:31:34 2011 Mailman started Why all the stopping and starting? -- Mark Sapiro <m...@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan ------------------------------------------------------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org