Sorry, I forgot to Cc the list. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Shute 
Sent: Thursday, 6 November 2014 12:49 PM
To: 'Mark Sapiro'
Subject: RE: [Mailman-Users] Spamassassin content preview ending up posted to 
list

The dot was missing in the X-Ham-Report header but not in the message body in 
the moderation notice.

It was missing from both in the message the list sent out, which made me think 
the list thought the content preview in the X-Ham-Report header was the 
message, and discarded the rest.

I received the moderation notice via Exchange/Outlook, so I'm not sure there 
isn't more to it that I can't see. Outlook will only show me the headers, not 
the whole raw message. In an attempt to get a raw message for you to look at, I 
opened the message attached tot he moderation notice, then used Outlook's 
Resend option to send it to my gmail account. Below is what gmail calls the 
"original message". However, you'll notice that there is no X-Ham-Report 
header! I'm assuming Outlook/Exchange or gmail stripped it out on the way to my 
gmail mailbox. So I've added the headers I see in Outlook below the full 
message.

It might be that Outlook/Exchange has totally rewritten the headers and 
content, so apologies if that's the case.

The difference between these and what arrived from the list is that it's plain 
text only, and the URL mentioned hase changed from:
http://sunshinecoastbirds.blogspot.com.au/2014/11/yandina-creek-wetlands-and-its.html
to:
http://sunshinecoastbirdsblogspot.com.au/2014/11/yandina-creek-wetlands-and-its.html

Note that the first dot in the URL has gone. The only place I can see a 
matching URL is in the content preview.

Delivered-To: xx...@gmail.com
Received: by 10.217.2.18 with SMTP id o18csp37651wes;
        Wed, 5 Nov 2014 14:41:09 -0800 (PST)
X-Received: by 10.68.211.193 with SMTP id ne1mr168364pbc.49.1415227268221;
        Wed, 05 Nov 2014 14:41:08 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <x...@nuw.org.au>
Received: from NUWVICMS2.nuw.org.au (mailout.nuw.org.au. [202.183.101.44])
        by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id rg11si4172892pdb.142.2014.11.05.14.41.06
        for <xx...@gmail.com>
        (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128);
        Wed, 05 Nov 2014 14:41:07 -0800 (PST)
Received-SPF: none (google.com: x...@nuw.org.au does not designate permitted 
sender hosts) client-ip=202.183.101.44;
Authentication-Results: mx.google.com;
       spf=neutral (google.com: x...@nuw.org.au does not designate permitted 
sender hosts) smtp.mail=x...@nuw.org.au
Received: from NUWVICMS2.nuw.org.au ([192.168.0.36]) by nuwvicms2
 ([192.168.0.36]) with mapi; Thu, 6 Nov 2014 09:41:03 +1100
From: Peter Shute <x...@nuw.org.au>
To: "'xx...@gmail.com'" <xx...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2014 09:41:02 +1100
Subject: Lewin's Rail, Spotless Crake and other Good Birds at Threatened  
Sunshine Coast Wetland
Thread-Topic: Lewin's Rail, Spotless Crake and other Good Birds at  Threatened 
Sunshine Coast Wetland
Thread-Index: Ac/4qG3uhKgRA3eBQdqoWtgYFONxDQ==
Message-ID: <C2F1879073AE7347BAB44065F143E17001826088F7@nuwvicms2>
Reply-To: Greg yyy <y...@westnet.com.au>
Accept-Language: en-US
Content-Language: en-US
X-MS-Has-Attach:
X-MS-TNEF-Correlator:
x-ironport-av: E=Sophos;i="5.07,317,1413216000";
    d="scan'208,217";a="377715616"
x-originating-ip: 124.150.99.243
x-spam-status: No, score=-0.9
x-ironport-anti-spam-result: 
Ah8LAJiYWVQKAiw6/2dsb2JhbABbgkhGVFkEgjK4XQaTWohlFgEBAQEBfYN5M24GAQk1AkIdG4gjAQETDqJGhzWIDYcBjjSGN41XgVQFhiKLf2KDb485A44ygVMBYIFWKy8BgUeBAwEBAQ
x-ironport-anti-spam-filtered: true
x-spam-flag: NO
x-spam-score: -8
x-spam-bar: /
acceptlanguage: en-US
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
        boundary="_000_C2F1879073AE7347BAB44065F143E17001826088F7nuwvicms2_"
MIME-Version: 1.0

--_000_C2F1879073AE7347BAB44065F143E17001826088F7nuwvicms2_
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
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--_000_C2F1879073AE7347BAB44065F143E17001826088F7nuwvicms2_
Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64

PGh0bWw+PGJvZHkgc3R5bGU9ImZvbnQtZmFtaWx5OiAnSGVsdmV0aWNhIE5ldWUnLEhlbHZl
PGh0bWw+dGlj
YSxBcmlhbCxzYW5zLXNlcmlmOyBmb250LXNpemU6IDEycHg7Ij48YnIgLz48ZGl2PkkgaGVhcmQg
b3Igc2F3IDUgTGV3aW4ncyBSYWlscyBhbmQgMTIgU3BvdGxlc3MgQ3Jha2VzIHRvZGF5IGF0IGEg
bmV3bHkgZGlzY292ZXJlZCB3ZXRsYW5kIGF0IFlhbmRpbmEgQ3JlZWsgb24gdGhlIFN1bnNoaW5l
IENvYXN0LiBPdGhlciBnb29kIGJpcmRzIGFib3V0IGluY2x1ZGVkIEJsYWNrLW5lY2tlZCBTdG9y
aywgUmVkLW5lY2tlZCBBdm9jZXQsIExpdHRsZSBHcmFzc2JpcmQgYW5kIGEgZnJlZS1mbHlpbmcg
TWFsbGFyZDsgZ2VudWluZWx5IHdpbGQgTWFsbGFyZHMgYXJlIHJhcmUgaW4gc291dGgtZWFzdCBR
dWVlbnNsYW5kLjwvZGl2PjxkaXY+PGJyIC8+PC9kaXY+PGRpdj5UaGlzIGV4dGVuc2l2ZSBh
dWVlbnNsYW5kLjwvZGl2PjxkaXY+PGJyIC8+PC9kaXY+cmVh
IG9mIGdyYXNzbGFuZCBhbmQgd2V0bGFuZCBoYXMgZW5vcm1vdXMgcG90ZW50aWFsIGJ1dCBpcyB0
aHJlYXRlbmVkIGJ5IGRldmVsb3BtZW50LiBUaGUgU3Vuc2hpbmUgQ29hc3QgUmVnaW9uYWwgQ291
bmNpbCBpcyBiZWluZyB1cmdlZCB0byBwdXJjaGFzZSBzb21lIG9mIHRoZSBwcml2YXRlbHkgb3du
ZWQgbGFuZCB0byBjb25zZXJ2ZSBhbmQgbWFuYWdlIHRoZSB3ZXRsYW5kcy48L2Rpdj48ZGl2Pjxi
ciAvPjwvZGl2PjxkaXY+U2VlIGhlcmUgZm9yIHBpY3R1cmVzLCBmdXJ0aGVyIGluZm9ybWF0
ciAvPjwvZGl2PjxkaXY+aW9u
IGFuZCBhIGxpbmsgd2hlcmUgcGVvcGxlIGNhbiBjb250YWN0IHRoZSBtYXlvciBpZiB0aGV5IHdh
bnQgdG8gc2VlIHRoZSBhcmVhIHByb3RlY3RlZDo8L2Rpdj48ZGl2PjxiciAvPjwvZGl2PjxkaXY+
aHR0cDovL3N1bnNoaW5lY29hc3RiaXJkcy5ibG9nc3BvdC5jb20uYXUvMjAxNC8xMS95YW5kaW5h
LWNyZWVrLXdldGxhbmRzLWFuZC1pdHMuaHRtbDwvZGl2PjxkaXY+PGJyIC8+PC9kaXY+PGRp
LWNyZWVrLXdldGxhbmRzLWFuZC1pdHMuaHRtbDwvZGl2PjxkaXY+PGJyIC8+PC9kaXY+dj5H
cmVnIFJvYmVydHPCoDwvZGl2PjxiciAvPjwvYm9keT48L2h0bWw+DQo=

--_000_C2F1879073AE7347BAB44065F143E17001826088F7nuwvicms2_--

These are the headers I can see in the message attached to the moderation 
notice before I sent it to gmail:

Received: from webmail.icp-osb-irony-out4.external.iinet.net.au 
([203.59.1.232]:24685)
        by cloud3.emwd.com with esmtp (Exim 4.82)
        (envelope-from <ninde...@westnet.com.au>)
        id 1XlrFh-003a2i-HB
        for birding-...@birding-aus.org; Tue, 04 Nov 2014 22:27:23 -0500
X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true
X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: 
Ah8LAJiYWVQKAiw6/2dsb2JhbABbgkhGVFkEgjK4XQaTWohlFgEBAQEBfYN5M24GAQk1AkIdG4gjAQETDqJGhzWIDYcBjjSGN41XgVQFhiKLf2KDb485A44ygVMBYIFWKy8BgUeBAwEBAQ
X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.07,317,1413216000"; 
   d="scan'208,217";a="377715616"
Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) ([10.2.44.58])
  by icp-osb-irony-out4.iinet.net.au with ESMTP; 05 Nov 2014 11:27:17 +0800
Message-ID: <0e7de907fab48b1832d57dd6d35803a847068...@webmail.westnet.com.au>
From: "Greg Roberts" <ninde...@westnet.com.au>
Reply-To: "Greg Roberts" <ninde...@westnet.com.au>
To: "birding-aus" <birding-...@birding-aus.org>
X-Mailer: Atmail 6.6.0.13042
X-Originating-IP: 124.150.99.243
Subject: Lewin's Rail, Spotless Crake and other Good Birds at Threatened 
Sunshine Coast Wetland
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2014 13:27:17 +1000
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
        boundary="=_bf3f4cd6b721f8d50a7e7df8a17b7a9d"
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.9
X-Spam-Score: -8
X-Spam-Bar: /
X-Ham-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "cloud3.emwd.com", 
has  identified this incoming email as possible spam.  The original message  
has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label  
similar future email.  If you have any questions, see  root\@localhost for 
details.
 
 Content preview:  I heard or saw 5 Lewin's Rails and 12 Spotless Crakes today
    at a newly discovered wetland at Yandina Creek on the Sunshine Coast. Other
    good birds about included Black-necked Stork, Red-necked Avocet, Little 
Grassbird
    and a free-flying Mallard; genuinely wild Mallards are rare in south-east
    Queensland. This extensive area of grassland and wetland has enormous 
potential
    but is threatened by development. The Sunshine Coast Regional Council is
   being urged to purchase some of the privately owned land to conserve and 
manage
    the wetlands. See here for pictures, further information and a link where
    people can contact the mayor if they want to see the area protected: 
http://sunshinecoastbirdsblogspot.com.au/2014/11/yandina-creek-wetlands-and-its.html
    Greg Roberts? [...] 
 
 Content analysis details:   (-0.9 points, 5.0 required)
 
  pts rule name              description
 ---- ---------------------- --------------------------------------------------
 -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE     RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no
                             trust
                             [203.59.1.232 listed in list.dnswl.org]
 -1.9 BAYES_00               BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1%
                             [score: 0.0000]
  0.0 HTML_MESSAGE           BODY: HTML included in message
  1.0 KAM_LIVE               blogspot.com & livejournal.com likely spam (Apr 
2010)
X-Spam-Flag: NO



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mailman-Users
> [mailto:mailman-users-bounces+pshute=nuw.org...@python.org]
> On Behalf Of Mark Sapiro
> Sent: Thursday, 6 November 2014 11:39 AM
> To: mailman-users@python.org
> Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Spamassassin content preview ending up 
> posted to list
> 
> On 11/05/2014 01:03 PM, Peter Shute wrote:
> > 
> > Looking at the original message in the moderation alert
> email, it looks ok to me, but I can see that the dot has been dropped 
> in the content preview in the X-Ham-Report header which I think 
> spamassassin has inserted. This header has multiple lines, including 
> blank lines, and I'm wondering if it's confusing mailman.
> 
> 
> So, if I understand correctly, the missing dot is only in an 
> X-Ham-Report header. Was this header correct in the moderation notice?
> 
> Or are you saying that the dot was present in the body of the 
> message in the held message notice, but not in the body of 
> the delivered message?
> 
> It would help if you could post the entire RAW message that 
> was attached to the held message notice (address obfuscation 
> OK) and point out how this differs from the message delivered 
> to the list.
> 
> In any case, Mailman (actually the underlying Python library) 
> might possibly unfold and refold the X-Ham-Report header, but 
> other than that, it should be untouched and have no effect on Mailman.
> 
> Is it possible that the original message in the held notice 
> was multipart/alternative with text/plain and text/html 
> alternatives, and you saw the text/html alternative which was 
> correct, but this was removed by Mailman's content filtering 
> collapse_alternatives leaving the text/plain part which 
> wasn't? If that's the case, blame the user's MUA (if it's 
> Yahoo, it's almost certainly the culprit).
> 
> -- 
> Mark Sapiro <m...@msapiro.net>        The highway is for gamblers,
> San Francisco Bay Area, California    better use your sense - B. Dylan
> ------------------------------------------------------
> Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org 
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
> Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: 
> http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: 
> http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
> Unsubscribe: 
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/pshute%4
0nuw.org.au
> 
------------------------------------------------------
Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org
https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3
Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Unsubscribe: 
https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org

Reply via email to