Hi

I agree that the behaviour you are describing is problematic. As you say in your #2, MailMate should learn the correct sending account for your address.

(The heuristic about matching domains is a clever one and desirable, but I do not believe it is part of the existing functionality.)

Your experience is contrary to mine and what I believe is the correct functionality in MailMate. In short, it seems like a bug and you should file it as such with Benny if he does not jump in on this thread. I am sure he would like to figure out why it is not working for you.

Good luck.

David.



On 15 Apr 2013, at 10:30, Alberto Caporro wrote:

Hi David,

my usage pattern is quite simple and repeatable.

I have six email address configured in MailMate; one of them has two
aliases, which brings the total of possible "From" address to eight; my work address has the domain "@consulthink.it", my main (in term of usage)
personal one is a "gmail.com".

If I write an email to one of my colleagues, as soon as I input his address (x...@consulthink.it) the "From" address is switched to my gmail account; I can change it back to the "consulthink.it" address, but the next time I
write an email to the same person it happens again.

There are at least three anomalous behaviours here:

1. When I write an email, the reasonable beahviour should be to use, as the sender address, one with the same domain, if available; if not some
kind of heuristic should be applied.
2. If the algorithm is supposed to learn, why am I seeing the same
behaviour again and again?
3. Why does this happen only with some of the recipients? I can send
emails to other colleagues (same domain) and the sender address is the
right one.

This has been happening since the first time I've used MM, and is still
happening right now; I've also tried removing my accounts, wiping my
configuration and starting again from scratch, with no apparent change.

Cheers,
Alberto



On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 7:16 AM, David Levy <entropyd...@mac.com> wrote:

Hi Tom

So far as I know, there is no way to disable this feature.  There is
almost certainly a way to reset your past usage history.  Benny (the
author) will know.

I have not encountered any behaviour like you describe. There is nothing random about the behaviour for me. I have five accounts and several of
those have aliases, so I could send from any of about 10 addresses.

When I create a message, the sending ID is initially set to the account currently selected in the message viewer, e.g. if a message in account A is
selected, then the ID of my new message is set to A.

The first address I type determines my sending ID after that, so if I type in an address I have most recently sent to using account B, my sending ID is changed to B. Subsequent addresses do not change this, unless I delete
the first and type a new one.

So far, nothing random.

If I now wish to send to this person that I most recently wrote to from account B, using account C, I can do that by selecting from the the pop-up at the top of the composer window (or use ctrl-cmd-i which is what I use to select addresses). Then the message is sent from account C. So far, not
random.

I do not know why you have four accounts, but I do because two are for distinct jobs I do, one is my main address for most communication with the outside world and one is for friends and family. I find this feature super useful, indeed it is one of the most winning features of MailMate. 95% of
the time or more, I only want to email work colleagues from my work
addresses and my friends and family from the account for that. MailMate makes that happen now with almost zero intervention and no need to remember
to check from which account I am sending.

You say that the addresses change without asking.  That is not my
experience. My experience is that it is deterministic along the lines above. Maybe Benny can suggest a way to reset your history and that will help. However, if you are fairly consistent, the patterns should quickly
stabilise.

That said, to emphasise, if you change the sending ID in the composer
*after* you have put in your first destination address, MailMate will
behave just like Mail and other email apps. It will not change the sending
account.

David.


On 15 Apr 2013, at 0:26, Tom wrote:

Hi David,
I'm pasting my original message below, to keep the thread organized.

I am not meddling with address patterns and the Regex feature.
It just changes the addresses without asking.

I actually don't see how this could be useful.
I want to be the only one to choose what address a mail should be sent
from.

Even if some day I decide to use the "personal" address to write to a
person who
I've alway contacted using the "work" address, I should be free to do so.
No automatic address switching.

Is there any way to disable it?

Thank you for your feedback,
Tom



On 14/apr/2013, 08:27, David Levy <entropyd...@mac.com>:

On 13 Apr 2013, at 19:15, Alberto Caporro wrote:

in my experience MM change the "From" address when you add a recipient;
depending on your previous usage pattern it decides which address to
use.

I've still not been able to get a reasonable behaviour for this
function;
no matter whatever I've tried, wrong address still are selected for
outgoing emails.

Furthermore, it seems to interact in a very nasty way with the "Address pattern" feature, if activated; I'm going to submit a bug report to
Benny
as soon as I find a few minutes to collect the relevant screenshots.



I am surprised to hear you say this.  In my experience this
functionality, which I believe is unique to MailMate, works exceptionally well for me. I have avoided having to change my sending identity hundreds, maybe thousands of times, because of this. It has also saved me from sending from the wrong address many, many times. I wonder in what way it
is producing the wrong results?

Perhaps you have unusual addressing patterns, which is why I ask. Maybe
you're doing something I should be doing.

I am not familiar, I think, with the "address pattern" feature, so
cannot comment.

David.
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Original message:

Hi, I'm a new user.
So far everything is great except for a no-go problem: Mailmate randomly
changes the sender address of my messages.

I've set it up with 4 mail boxes:
- yahoo
- gmail
- personal IMAP account (domain A)
- personal IMAP account (domain B)

Quite often, when I send a message using one specific address in the
"FROM" field (and now I triple check every time), Mailmate decides to
change it with another one and sends the message with from the wrong
mailbox.
I've already verified that this is not a local problem (e.g. mixed labels in the GUI): these "swaps" appear on the remote IMAP directories as well.

Is it some sort of hidden option I haven't noticed? Am I doing something
wrong?
Can it be fixed?

Thank you for your help.
All the best,
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