Good idea. I might try that, but at this point I’m having trouble even getting to my Hotmail account online. When I type hotmail.com <http://hotmail.com/> on the address line, it converts that to outlook.live.com <http://outlook.live.com/> and takes me to my Outlook mail site online. The two are separate. Microsoft has said that Hotmail became Outlook, but that’s simply a lie. Hotmail was replaced by a new and separate email service called outlook.com <http://outlook.com/>. I have, indeed, occasionally found myself staring at the Hotmail account online but I’m damned if I know how I got there or how to repeat whatever got me there. Anyway, I’ll keep your thought in mind if that happens again. I think Microsoft is playing tricks with Hotmail.
Thomas > On Aug 30, 2020, at 8:31 PM, Randall Gellens <mailm...@randy.pensive.org> > wrote: > > The Spark login for Hotmail doesn’t allow any “reset password” feature. So I > may need to reset it in some other client where I can configure a new > password in 1Password, which will keep a record of it, then use that to login > to Hotmail in Spark. > > Normally, password resets are done at the mail provider using a web browser, > not in an email client. Can you go to hotmail.com and reset your password > there? > > --Randall > > On 30 Aug 2020, at 14:24, Thomas Bartlett via mailmate wrote: > > Thanks for the thoughts. See my interlinear responses below. > > >> On Aug 30, 2020, at 9:41 AM, Sam Hathaway <list.mailm...@munkynet.org >> <mailto:list.mailm...@munkynet.org>> wrote: >> >> On 30 Aug 2020, at 4:55, Thomas Bartlett via mailmate wrote: >> >>> "com.apple.Exchange.oath-refresh-token." >> >> Thomas, >> >> You mean, “oauth-refresh-token”, right? > > Yes. You’re right. > >> >> If your account is using OAuth, your mail client won’t store the account >> password. >> >> The keychain items that MailMate stores for my GMail account (which uses >> OAuth) are: >> >> com.freron.MailMate.Google.oauth-token >> com.freron.MailMate.Google.oauth-refresh-token >> >> Neither of these contain my GMail password. >> >> By contrast, for my FastMail account (which uses application passwords), >> MailMate stores these items in the keychain: >> >> imap.fastmail.com <http://imap.fastmail.com/> >> smtp.fastmail.com > > MailMate shows the server addresses for all seven of my email accounts. >> >> These both contain the FastMail application password for my account. > > MailMate only shows the password for my Yahoo account, not for the two > Gmails, the iCloud.com <http://icloud.com/>, the Outlook, the Hotmail, my > employer’s Exchange account. >> >> Basically, if your provider uses OAuth, you’re SOL any you’ll probably have >> to reset your password. >> -sam >> >> P.S.: Why do you have so many email clients?! XD > > Thanks for the explanation about OAuth, which I didn’t know but answers a > long-standing question in my mind. Is four email clients really very many to > have installed? Anyway, I sort of drifted into trying out new ones, not > being fully satisfied with any of them. And I sometimes find that one or > another behaves eccentrically so drop it and go to another one. I used MS > Outlook on my PC for about 15 years and liked its Address Book very much. > Then I moved to Mac OS platform and took up Mail, which I found inferior. > Then someone recommended MailMate, which does some things much better than > Mail, but is sometimes complex beyond my level of expertise, as in the > present case about passwords. Then someone recommended Spark, which is fine > when working right, but it can be devilishly recalcitrant to configure. And, > when I got Office 365 for Mac, it came with an improved MS Outlook, which has > the advantage of working more seamlessly with the Microsoft Outlook mail and > Hotmail. I have a 1TB solid state drive which is less than half full, so > reduplication of downloaded mail isn’t a problem (yet). Yes, it’s sometimes > tedious to keep all of my accounts functioning properly in all four clients. > But right now, except for Hotmail in Spark, everything else is behaving as > expected. The Spark login for Hotmail doesn’t allow any “reset password” > feature. So I may need to reset it in some other client where I can configure > a new password in 1Password, which will keep a record of it, then use that to > login to Hotmail in Spark. > > Thomas > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > mailmate mailing list > mailmate@lists.freron.com > https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate > <https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate>
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