Thank you. I have now downloaded 5850 and it’s running well. What seems to have made the difference in being able to download mail from the Outlook and Hotmail servers is app-specific passwords that I got (from where I don’t remember) and inserted into the IMAP and SMTP password lines of the settings for both accounts. I have been leaving OAuth2 unchecked, because downloading occurs well without it and I think I’ve had some problems when I did check it. With Hotmail I can send and receive; with Outlook only receive, which is probably the more important of the two actions, since I have mail newsletters sent to that address.
I have Thunderbird on my computer but haven’t done much with it yet. Since you mention it, when time permits maybe I’ll give it a look and see if I can learn anything that might enhance my use of MailMate as well. Thomas On 25 Nov 2021, at 10:37, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: > On 23 Nov 2021, at 3:03, Thomas Bartlett via mailmate wrote: > >>> To get the latest test release (and you should for Monterey): Hold down ⌥ >>> when clicking “Check Now” in the Software Update preferences pane. >> >> I tried that after r5844 was installed and nothing happened. The window just >> closed. I suppose that means I’m fully up to date. > > Please try this again. It should offer you r5850 now. > >> I have Office365 on my MacBook PRO with Monterey OS, running in “New >> Outlook” mode. It definitely does connect to Outlook.com mail and >> Hotmail.com mail. Of course, it’s to be expected that a Microsoft mail >> client would connect effectively with the Microsoft mail servers. > > Their own email clients talk “native” Exchange and not IMAP. The same goes > for Apple Mail and a few other email clients. The primary test is: If it > works in Thunderbird then it should also be possible to make it work in > MailMate. (Well, there's a kind of an exception to that rule for Yahoo for > which Thunderbird has gotten special treatment somehow.) > >> My (perhaps excessively suspicious) hypothesis might be that Microsoft is >> deliberately making it difficult or impossible for other mail clients to do >> the same, but then what do I know about it? > > Well, I can tell you that Apple also supports some kind of OAuth2-like system > for Apple Mail which is completely off limits for third party email clients > (which then has to rely on the user creating application specific passwords). > In that sense, Microsoft > > -- > Benny > _______________________________________________ > mailmate mailing list > mailmate@lists.freron.com > https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate _______________________________________________ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
