> activated in both Correction: I was referring to Outlook and Hotmail, but 
> neglected to mention Hotmail.

Further correction: I find that my intention in that statement was mistaken. 
The Hotmail account does have OAuth2 checked, but Outlook account uses the 
app-specific password without activating OAuth2.

In Keychain Access, there is no separate entry relating to the Hotmail account, 
apparently because it also uses the outlook.com server.

Question: given that 1) Hotmail can now send and receive through the same 
server as Outlook by using OAuth2 without a password (apparently?), where as 2) 
Outlook can receive but not send using a password without OAuth2, therefore 3) 
might Outlook be able to send and receive, just like Hotmail, if I remove the 
password and activate OAuth2?  I think I tried that earlier but found it 
wanting, so I got the passwords, but I don’t remember for certain the sequence 
of my attempts to fix it.

TB



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> From: Thomas Bartlett via mailmate <mailmate@lists.freron.com>
> To: MailMate Users <mailmate@lists.freron.com>
> Cc: Thomas Bartlett <t.bartl...@me.com>
> Subject: Re: [MlMt] MailMate and Monterey
> Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2021 03:15:11 -0800
>
> Those are the IMAP and SMTP server addresses that I use with Outlook. Port 
> 993 with IMAP, Port 465 with SMTP. Require SSL activated in both IMAP and 
> SMTP, but OAuth2 not activated in either, while app-specific password used in 
> both.
>
> And I deleted the Keychain entry in the format you showed below. But I left 
> in place a Keychain entry that is identical with the format below except that 
> the word ‘refresh’ is not shown between ‘oath-‘ and ‘-token.’  Should that 
> also be removed?
>
> Thomas
>
>
> On 25 Nov 2021, at 9:13, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:
>
>>
>> I looked into making my test account (@outlook.com) work and this time it 
>> succeeded. I'm still unsure if it's officially supported by Microsoft, but 
>> these settings do work for me:
>>
>> IMAP: imap-mail.outlook.com
>> SMTP: smtp-mail.outlook.com
>>
>> Both with OAuth2 enabled.
>>
>> There might be an issue where MailMate fails to get a new so-called refresh 
>> token and I think that might play a part in why these things seem a bit 
>> unpredictable. Therefore, after configuring the above, try deleting items in 
>> “Keychain Access” with the following name:
>>
>>     com.freron.MailMate.Outlook.oauth-refresh-token
>>
>> That should trigger a new round of OAuth2 authorization which might work 
>> better for you.
>>
>> -- 
>> Benny
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