On 14 November 2017 at 23:18, Renaud Allard via mailop
<mailop@mailop.org> wrote:
> On 14/11/2017 22:59, Brandon Long via mailop wrote:
>> Ugh, those timeouts are insane, from a different era.
>
> Taken straight out of RFC5321 tough, but yes, indeed, that RFC is from 2008.

That paragraph is unchanged from rfc2821, so from 2001.

> quote: "Based on extensive experience with busy mail-relay hosts, the
> minimum per-command timeout values SHOULD be as follows"...
>
> Note that those values SHOULD be the minimum ones :)

But I guess the number of email sent AFTER that experience is some
magnitude higher than the number of emails delivered before that day.
So maybe we can at least agree that what was "extensive experience" in
2001 cannot be considered extensive anymore.

We need some more collective experience here...

Since years I use 2 minutes "in protocol" timeout by default, tweaked
to higher values for few problematic destinations.

If a server expect me to spend 30 minutes to send them an email then I
read this as a way to tell me they don't want my message :-)

Stefano

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