Michael had asked for feedback to confirm that an asterisk is not an allowed 
localpart character. It is an allowed localpart character. Hence why I stated 
he would be disappointed.

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From: mailop <mailop-boun...@mailop.org> on behalf of Al Iverson 
<aiver...@wombatmail.com>
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2019 10:52:10 AM
To: mailop
Subject: Re: [mailop] Mailing List Address Formats..

I'm definitely disappointed by the giant chunks of excess HTML links and 
previews added to your reply, for sure.

But the page you linked to clearly says that the asterisk is allowed in the 
username portion, so nothing to be disappointed about there. Not sure if 
perhaps you misread it just now.

Cheers,
Al Iverson



On Fri, Jan 11, 2019 at 12:48 PM David Carriger 
<david.carri...@infusionsoft.com<mailto:david.carri...@infusionsoft.com>> wrote:

I'm afraid you're going to be disappointed.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Email_address#Local-part

Email address<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Email_address#Local-part>
en.wikipedia.org<http://en.wikipedia.org>
An email address identifies an email box to which email messages are delivered. 
A wide variety of formats were used in early email systems, but only a...

The RFC allows you to put a LOT in the localpart without any sort of fanfare, 
and you can do almost any stupid thing you want as long as you quote it.


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From: mailop <mailop-boun...@mailop.org<mailto:mailop-boun...@mailop.org>> on 
behalf of Al Iverson <aiver...@wombatmail.com<mailto:aiver...@wombatmail.com>>
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2019 10:45 AM
To: Michael Peddemors
Cc: mailop
Subject: Re: [mailop] Mailing List Address Formats..

Return-path headers using VERP in this way, with asterisks in the
username part like this, can be traced all the way back to LISTSERV in
the 1990s.  It's a long standing practice. If you block based on this,
you'll block a few spammers or commercial mailers who used or use
LISTSERV, or who rolled their own mailing list software in a way where
they copied the VERP styling exactly, but you'll also probably block
lots of academia and random non-spammy discussion lists.

When I worked for Digital River approximately 150 years ago, we had an
internal platform that had its own databases and UI for list
management and campaign configuration, and then when you hit "send" an
email template was built that was then handed off to the LISTSERV
server which then did all the building of the messages. The
Return-Path header for these messages was always of the format
owner-nolist-x-y*username**domain*-suffix@sender.

Regards,
Al Iverson


On Fri, Jan 11, 2019 at 12:36 PM Michael Peddemors
<mich...@linuxmagic.com<mailto:mich...@linuxmagic.com>> wrote:
>
> owner-nolist-cp_enews-190110p-gqfjbpue*username**domain*-suf...@digital.annexbusinessmedia.com<mailto:suf...@digital.annexbusinessmedia.com>
>
> (Where 'username', 'domain','suffix' are placeholders)
>
> I don't know of this particular mailer, but can I get some feedback to
> confirm that the '*' character is not a permitted character in an email
> address? (user name portion)
>
> Or has there been a change to RFC's that I am not aware of?
>
> Grepping of logs, only shows a couple cases of it.. but wanted feedback
> on this, as some as you can see are important legitimate senders..
>
> owner-at-l*username**domain*-suf...@listserv.sde.ok.gov<mailto:suf...@listserv.sde.ok.gov>
> owner-nolist-190110n-f3yuf778*username**domain*-suf...@prdlsv1nu.shaw.ca<mailto:suf...@prdlsv1nu.shaw.ca>
> owner-abajournal_weekly_allnon*username**domain*-n...@mail.americanbar.org<mailto:n...@mail.americanbar.org>]
> owner-news_release_e*username**domain*-c...@lserv.pmo-cpm.gc.ca<mailto:c...@lserv.pmo-cpm.gc.ca>
> owner-nolist-tdw-20190110-cet*username**domain*-c...@listserv.td.com<mailto:c...@listserv.td.com>
>
>
>
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