Hi Alessandro,
There is already an existing policy that mandates having the abuse mailbox. My
proposal doesn't change that. The actual policy and validation system only
check that the mail server acks about the mailbox, which in my opinion is not
sufficient and the result is precisely what you indicated.
My proposal is trying to improve that, making sure that the mailbox can
actually get emails and that the policy clearly indicates that you must act on
that.
In all the RIRs the policies are mandatory for all the members. If a member is
not following a policy, it can be scaled and if this is a repetitive action,
measures could be taken. What level of measures? It depends on the community
(other policies about lack of compliance), membership agreement, etc. In some
regions, if you keep ignoring policies, you can just get your account closed.
Regards,
Jordi
@jordipalet
El 3/4/20 18:02, "mailop en nombre de Alessandro Vesely via mailop"
<mailop-boun...@mailop.org en nombre de mailop@mailop.org> escribió:
Hi,
On Thu 02/Apr/2020 15:34:45 +0200 JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via mailop wrote:
> El 2/4/20 15:31, "Suresh Ramasubramanian" escribió:
>>
>> Is there any point to it Jordi? The “we are not the internet police”
crowd
>> will make the same loud noises again and the initiative will be scuttled
yet
>> again. Why is continuing to bang one’s head against intransigence a
good idea?
>
> Consensus is a difficult thing. If you don’t retry to find a minimum
acceptable
> for everyone, we will never reach it, right?
Even if consensus is reached within a RIR, you cannot force providers who
don't
want to care about abuse. From a reporter POV, it is more practical to find
that there is no abuse address for a given IP, than finding addresses like
nob...@example.com, which automated tools can hardly recognize as
discardable.
Actually, having no abuse team would be a rather important property to
assess.
Best
Ale
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