> Without giving any message/sender/recipient details away (that the
> sending mail admin can't already see) they could give the ID of the
> message transaction

That almost sounds like it would make too much sense.

> Or, maybe, it's because Microsoft's lawyers know that their systems are
> a bit dodgy/arbitrary/random and don't want to risk all the problems
> being discovered?

Er... yea... nevermind.

On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 9:39 AM Paul Smith via mailop <mailop@mailop.org>
wrote:

> On 29/06/2020 13:08, Scott Mutter via mailop wrote:
> > > On the advice of their lawyers Microsoft doesn’t share that
> > information with senders.
> >
> > And I understand the reasons for that.  But... can't you see how this
> > turns into a "he said / she said" argument?
>
> Without giving any message/sender/recipient details away (that the
> sending mail admin can't already see) they could give the ID of the
> message transaction
>
> Their servers respond to the message with something like this:
>
> 250 2.6.0 <messageid> [InternalId=1112312312313,
> Hostname=DB8EUR06HT227.eop-eur06.prod.protection.outlook.com] 1117027
> bytes in 0.520, 2096.624 KB/sec Queued mail for delivery -> 250 2.1.5
>
> So, they could easily give out the "internalid" & "hostname" values
> without divulging any personal information about either the message
> sender or recipient or content, so there is no GDPR or data protection
> breach there. If the person they tell those to can use them to identify
> the message details, then that person could already have seen the
> message details. If not, then it tells them nothing.
>
> Or, maybe, it's because Microsoft's lawyers know that their systems are
> a bit dodgy/arbitrary/random and don't want to risk all the problems
> being discovered?
>
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