Hello Benoit and Hokan,

Thanks for pointing this out and I'm sorry you're still seeing what sounds
like a high volume of phish. I've asked our fraud ops team to investigate
this. In the future if you could send suspicious emails to
ab...@sendgrid.com we will get this handled. Feel free to CC me when you do
this to make sure these are handled quickly.

We've instituted some self-limiting features on our front door that
should've decreased the overall volume of abuse. This is a stop gap measure
as we roll out some other countermeasures in the next few weeks. Could you
let me know if you have seen a perceptible drop in volume and velocity
between June and July when this was rolled out?

Again, I want to assure you that there is a massive effort happening here
to address the problems you are seeing. I'm happy to meet off list and
discuss this further and help you understand what we're working on if that
would be helpful. Again, thank you for your patience and please don't
hesitate to contact me when you see any of these issues arise.

Best,
-L

Len Shneyder
VP Industry Relations
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TWITTER @LenShneyder <https://twitter.com/LenShneyder>Message: 6
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2020 16:53:46 +0200
From: Benoit Panizzon <benoit.paniz...@imp.ch>
To: mailop@mailop.org
Subject: [mailop] Delisting request from sendgrid customer about ip
        used in recent phishing campaign.
Message-ID: <20200811165346.4e775...@go.imp.ch>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Hi List

o1678912x138.outbound-mail.sendgrid.net [167.89.12.138] and IP under
control of sendgrid was repeatedly involved in phishing and other spam
since June.

It ended up being blacklisted @ SWINOG.

Now a sendgrid customers complains to us, that his emails are being
rejected because of this listing.

But that makes me wonder: Doesn't sendgrid deal with such issues like
asking for delisting after blocking the sender itself and re-uses
recently (last phish received on 14. July) 'abused' ip addresses for
other customers?

Mit freundlichen Grüssen

-Benoît Panizzon-
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2020 10:20:47 -0500
From: Hokan <ho...@me.umn.edu>
To: mailop@mailop.org
Subject: Re: [mailop] Delisting request from sendgrid customer about
        ip used in recent phishing campaign.
Message-ID: <20200811152047.ga7...@me.umn.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

I've instituted short-term blocks of Sendgrid mail several times this year
and started another today because it looks like as much as a third of the
mail they've sent us in the past week has been evil -- mostly phishing.

This is a problem for me because some of the mail Sendgrid sends is
wanted by my users.  I'm thinking about just accepting it all and filing
it into user spam folders.

I see that the IP you mention, Benoit, is currently listed on the SBL and
Spamcop.


On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 04:53:46PM +0200, Benoit Panizzon via mailop wrote:
> Hi List
>
> o1678912x138.outbound-mail.sendgrid.net [167.89.12.138] and IP under
> control of sendgrid was repeatedly involved in phishing and other spam
> since June.
>
> It ended up being blacklisted @ SWINOG.
>
> Now a sendgrid customers complains to us, that his emails are being
> rejected because of this listing.
>
> But that makes me wonder: Doesn't sendgrid deal with such issues like
> asking for delisting after blocking the sender itself and re-uses
> recently (last phish received on 14. July) 'abused' ip addresses for
> other customers?
>
> Mit freundlichen Grüssen
>
> -Benoît Panizzon-

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