I was the TL of the second version of groups that added the improved web archive and mailing lists, and ensured that usenet was well supported at the time... and continued to maintain the incoming and posting servers until a couple years back. The groups usenet archive is still available as a web archive and in search, though I've felt the search isn't as good as it used to be... or at least doesn't seem to surface usenet like it used to. It's a smaller and smaller subset of the groups archive over time, so maybe that's natural.
If there were other requirements for our handling of the archive, no one made me aware of them... but I did join well after that acquisition and the first groups search. Brandon On Sun, Dec 20, 2020, 1:03 PM Jay R. Ashworth via mailop <mailop@mailop.org> wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Chris" <clewis+mai...@mustelids.ca> > > To: "Lyndon Nerenberg" <lyn...@orthanc.ca>, "jra" <j...@baylink.com> > > Cc: "Chris" <clewis+mai...@mustelids.ca>, mailop@mailop.org > > > On 2020-12-20 14:00, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: > >>> The original quote, IIRC, was talking about Henry Spencer at UT > Zoology, who > >>> got Usenet that way for a while. > >> > >> More likely it was in relation to Australia's Usenet "feed" which was a > daily > >> FedEx air shipment of 9-track tapes. At the time, FedEx Air was > cheaper than > >> the very expensive submarine cable link. > > > > There is some confusion here. Lyndon is correct as for Australia. Jay > > has it backwards. > > Ah: he *sent* Usenet out that way. Got it. > > FWIW, Andy Tanenbaum got back to me before I could rig in my antenna, > and tells me that his quote wasn't conditioned on any particular situation. > > Jay regrets the error. > > > The Australia link was what I was referring to. Which was connected > > with NASA, and I believe Eugene Miya was involved. > > > > That's what the quote was referring to, and may have even been from Tom > > - he is that sort. However: > > > > Henry (who I was in CompSci with at UofT and knew him quite well) > > received Usenet via dialup modem at node utzoo, and spread it outwards > > from there. The sites I ran got it from utzoo. After a couple of > > years, I returned the favour and my site (mnetor - Computer X > > (subsidiary of Motorola) became the long haul link into Canada (via X.25 > > UUCP d protocol from Rick Adams' side at seismo), and I fed utzoo, BNR, > > LSUC, York et. al. > > > > [I then ended up in BNR, which for a while was one of the largest Usenet > > transit sites in the world.] > > > > Tom's connection with magtapes vis-a-vis Usenet that Jay is referring to > > is the *archive* of the Usenet traffic that Henry kept on tape, and gave > > to Dejanews. > > I dunno; I got mine -- thanks to Spaf, then at GATech -- over a 1200bps > modem from USF. :-) > > Henry's was, I think, the biggest contribution to DejaGoo, but there were, > IIRC, hundreds, and at least a few of them (possibly including utzoo's) > were > conditioned on Google's (not really fulfilled) promise to aggregate it *and > make all of it available in a useful form*. > > It's been 30 or 35 years, the possibility I'm misremembering some of it > does exist. But I have a bit set -- and it's a pretty large bit -- that > Google promised some stuff that they never delivered, and people depended > on it. > > Cheers, > -- jra > -- > Jay R. Ashworth Baylink > j...@baylink.com > Designer The Things I Think RFC > 2100 > Ashworth & Associates http://www.bcp38.info 2000 Land > Rover DII > St Petersburg FL USA BCP38: Ask For It By Name! +1 727 647 > 1274 > _______________________________________________ > mailop mailing list > mailop@mailop.org > https://list.mailop.org/listinfo/mailop >
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