> Aren't things like FBLs, or Google's Postmaster Tools, exactly the thing > that COULD (and IMHO should) be used for this?
Ideally, yea, they probably could be. But are Feedback Loops still in use? I've never gotten a single iota from Google's Feedback Loop or Postmaster tools. Maybe there's a certain threshold volume you have to hit before it starts registering and we never reach that. I'm also not getting anything from Microsoft's JMRP - and again, maybe that's a threshold thing. But I have had IPs blocked by Microsoft before. Was it explicitly the IP address I am USING? Or was it a neighbor IP that caused the block? Nobody knows, so we all just kind of shrug our shoulders, request delisting, and (eventually... maybe) get delisted and move on, never solving the "spam" issue. Back in the day, the AOL feedback loop worked and was IMMENSELY helpful. This was probably back before a lot of outgoing mail monitoring and filtering was in place on our systems. But it was definitely helpful when we would get a sudden barrage of AOL FBL messages from a certain IP address, and we knew then to stop everything and really investigate the activity happening on that server. This was back when AOL was probably a more major player in the Email Service Provider realm, it's less so now, there's just less aol.com email addresses in use these days. And I'm not even sure if the AOL FBL is still there. On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 12:23 PM Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop <mailop@mailop.org> wrote: > Dnia 25.02.2021 o godz. 11:53:44 Scott Mutter via mailop pisze: > > I'll end this little soapbox rant acknowledging that I don't really have > a > > solution to this. How is Microsoft supposed to know that a USER of an IP > > address is a well-respected and legitimate individual or company and not > a > > spammer? That's certainly a valid question, but just because a question > > doesn't have an immediate answer doesn't mean it's not a relevant > > question. Would time be better spent trying to solve this hurdle? If > > real, legitimate IP address USERS could be identified then they can > address > > more problematic spam incidents with more details. > > Aren't things like FBLs, or Google's Postmaster Tools, exactly the thing > that COULD (and IMHO should) be used for this? Can these help to identify > the user of the IP space and provide a point of contact (hopefully not only > for automated messages) if there's something wrong with that IP space? > -- > Regards, > Jaroslaw Rafa > r...@rafa.eu.org > -- > "In a million years, when kids go to school, they're gonna know: once there > was a Hushpuppy, and she lived with her daddy in the Bathtub." > _______________________________________________ > mailop mailing list > mailop@mailop.org > https://list.mailop.org/listinfo/mailop >
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