Operating a DNS server is so easy, and latency is such a tiny bit of overhead, with proper caching, would someone explain why they would use (share) a 3rd party DNS server at all?

oh.. grr.. this is kind of off topic to the list, but DNS lookups are critical to email infrastructure, not sure if we should continue the thread, but..

I can see from a technical perspective, that a large shared server has greater caching ability in a recursive environment, but mathematically, the performance boost seems negligible compared to all the aspects of connectivity..

And almost every very high volume mail server probably needs to perform more dns lookups than most other services, and they seem to have no problem doing queries against their own servers.

And with many services blocking queries from open resolvers, including quad-1 and quad-8, aside from of course the arguments on how that data is used by 3rd parties, and privacy arguments..

Please enlighten me why do people want to use an open resolver?
It can't be uptime ;)

        -- Michael --

On 2021-11-22 8:39 a.m., Joel M Snyder via mailop wrote:
 >We tend to run Cloudflare quad-1 rather than Google's quad-8, though
 >have hit instabilities with it, too.

I've been working on a fairly large (400+ sites) global WAN project and the Quad-8 fanboi foo is VERY high worldwide.  Each site has an edge router which is responsible for DNS for the site, so the question is: what resolvers to use?  It was decided we wanted some malware filtering, so we are using both Quad-9 and the Cloudflare filtering service (not 1.1.1.1 but 1.1.1.2).

What is very interesting is that there are a number of countries and ISPs which do NOT allow general DNS outbound queries, BUT which have in place an exception for 8.8.8.8.  In other words, we have offices in countries where using a resolver other than 8.8.8.8 (or the ISP DNS servers) requires a written request to the ISP/ministry involved.

Since this is happening in a number of countries, it's hard to discern exactly why 8.8.8.8 is given the exception: perhaps they just got tired of people complaining or, as the conspiracy theorists propose, they are intercepting 8.8.8.8 and re-directing to their own in-house servers.  Or some other reason.

Anyway, a bit far from mailops, but just an interesting and fairly unexpected observation.

jms




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