On 9/12/22 23:34, Hans-Martin Mosner via mailop wrote:

That's an example why you should only blacklist a "grey" source if you have very good reasons to do so.

  * Either you don't reasonably expect legit mail from there, in which
    case your blocking would only affect spam, which is ok.
  * Or you want to "teach" the senders to leave the spam-supporting
    provider. To my knowledge, this rarely works, if ever. You will be
    seen as the bad guy, and even if the sender decides to change
    service providers they won't be happy with you causing them
    significant costs and trouble.

Thus encouraging the "Too big to block" mentality. Outbound spam mitigation is a cost center. If the big providers have no incentive to filter outbound spam, they won't.

Even though I'm squarely with the people who think Google does too little against outgoing spam, a blacklist provider who lists their outgoing IPs should be avoided.

If an IP is a significant source of spam, it deserves to be blacklisted. End of story. An RBL operator giving known spammers a pass due to their size isn't being honest or transparent, and this behavior serves to drive people to the oligopoly.
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