Brandon, Yes, I could setup a rule at our edge servers to trash the mail or bounce it. I was just wondering if there's some other way to break a google forward that I wasn't aware of. It is being used in an abusive way, the stuff we receive via that forward seems deliberate. I was hoping there was some way I could report that and make it stop, or some mechanism I had missed. I have access to the folks that can setup those mail rules. But it occurred to me that not every user does and what would the average end user do in this situation?
This came to mind after a recent session at M3AAWG about the victims of cyber abuse and harassment. Lets say I allowed mail to forward to me, with my permission and then at some future point, that forwarded mail was being used to harass and abuse me. There's no unsub, no way to stop getting the mail if I don't control the original mailbox its being sent to. The end user has no recourse. I do, because I work closely with our mail admins on a daily basis but that is likely not the case with most users. Cheers! Tara Natanson On Mon, Oct 24, 2022 at 2:17 PM Brandon Long <bl...@google.com> wrote: > I'm confused, I thought you were saying that a gmail account was > autoforwarding mail to your postmaster@ address (ie, with +caf_ in > envelope sender). > > In which case, you can set up a specific block for mail from that caf > address to your postmaster address. > > With Google Workspace, you can use a content match > https://support.google.com/a/answer/1346934 > > Inbound Messages > Advanced content match, Location Envelope sender, and then the email > address with the +caf in it, and Equals or contains match type > Reject Message > > Brandon > > > > On Mon, Oct 24, 2022 at 11:01 AM Tara Natanson <tara+mai...@natanson.net> > wrote: > >> Brandon, >> >> The forward is set up to send out our postmaster@ address, So I can't >> let it bounce. :( >> >> Tara >> >> >> On Mon, Oct 24, 2022 at 1:49 PM Brandon Long via mailop < >> mailop@mailop.org> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Oct 24, 2022 at 9:09 AM Bill Cole via mailop <mailop@mailop.org> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> On 2022-10-24 at 09:30:29 UTC-0400 (Mon, 24 Oct 2022 09:30:29 -0400) >>>> Tara Natanson via mailop <tara+mai...@natanson.net> >>>> is rumored to have said: >>>> >>>> > Yes I know the address @gmail the messages are being sent to. I do >>>> not >>>> > control that gmail inbox though. >>>> >>>> Well, you surely understand that to be a (correct ethical) choice, >>>> right? You do control an inbox which GMail believes is confirmed as that >>>> GMail user, yes? >>>> <evil grin> >>>> >>>> But seriously, just give it a '550 5.7.1' reply at RCPT if possible, or >>>> '554 5.7.1' after DATA. Make Google figure it out. >>>> >>> >>> autoforwards should be automatically disabled if they bounce, though >>> like with all such things there are heuristics involved (a certain number >>> of bounces in a given time). >>> I'm sure there are a bunch of ways it could be improved, I think it >>> disables it without warning the user, which isn't great (especially if you >>> only read mail that's being forwarded), >>> but it can probably be re-enabled without re-verifying the address as >>> well, which isn't great for this case either. >>> >>> Brandon >>> _______________________________________________ >>> mailop mailing list >>> mailop@mailop.org >>> https://list.mailop.org/listinfo/mailop >>> >>
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