Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop <mailop@mailop.org> writes:

> Dnia 26.05.2023 o godz. 13:16:39 Scott Mutter via mailop pisze:
>> If you ask me - a better solution would be to do away with forwarding
>> completely and incorporate POP checks, like Gmail does.  This alleviates
>> all of the issues with forwarding mail in relation to SPF and DKIM.
>
> No, because you are replacing a service that operates on a "push" principle
> - which is the very basis of email - by a service that operates on a "pull"
> principle.
>
> You don't need any active action on your part to receive email someone sends
> you, even if it is forwarded.
> On the contrary, you *do* require constant active checking of the POP
> account you want to download mail from. If you stop checking, you won't get
> the mail. If you change the password on your POP account, you need to change
> it also on the downloading side etc. - a lot of actual inconveniences.
>
> With that way of thinking, you can get rid of email completely, and just
> regularly check some website where people can write messages for you...
>
> And, taking into account that POP is quite outdated, many sites don't
> implement it anymore and offer IMAP only. So downloading via POP won't work
> anyway.
>
>> If forwarding mail is so important, can a better system
>> for handling forwarded mail be developed?
>
> Since forwarding was before SPF, I would trun this question the other way:
> if checking the "legitimacy" of the sending server is so important, can a
> better system for handling this (that takes mail forwarding into account) be
> developed?
>
> Myself, I don't think that SPF and other methods of checking "authenticity"
> of the email are so important at all. Normal, unsigned email is an
> *untrusted* method of communication *by definition*. If you want email to
> be "authenticated", you should end-to-end sign it with your PGP or PKI
> private key when sending. Period.
>
> I don't check SPF, DKIM or DMARC on incoming mail at all. Content checking
> and blacklist checking is much more important in actual spam prevention than
> doubtful "authenticity" checking. That's of course my opinion, you can have
> a different one.

Hellow Jaroslaw!

Whooa, you have good insight and view. I do agree with you, and thanks!


Sincerely, Byung-Hee

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