> I might have missed something, but wouldn't that be a phisher's wet dream?

        Indeed, and because the BIMI record references a URI to load the 
logo from, so the scammers (spammers, phishers, malware/virus 
distributors, etc.) could simply specify a different logo file with a 
recognized brand to make their bad eMail appear legitimate.

> Most spammers know very well how to do a mail with valid DMARC. So, now 
> they only need to send a valid mail from any throw away cheap domain and 
> in their BIMI add the logo of paypal?

        Yes.

> I understand it's not great to have to pay for the 
> verification/certification, but leaving the door open to abuse is a 
> dangerous path to take.

        Some scammers make a lot of money ripping people off.  They could 
easily afford set up a company, get a Trademark, and then use a 
different logo image when sending their junk eMails.

        So, once this happens often enough, end-users will just not trust 
the BIMI logos to be reliable and it will be another internet feature 
that security educators will recommend be taken with a grain of salt.

> Being on the antispam side, I would hate to have to start implementing 
> BIMI spoof checks.

        I agree.  Even if someone else makes a SpamAssassin plug-in or a 
milter, it still adds to the overall complexity and will have a 
potentially-noticeable impact on busier systems ... and then everyone 
has to pay indirectly for BIMI with slower performance of system 
upgrades to counter the slower performance.

> Regards,
> Laurent
> 
> On 11.01.24 00:05, Louis Laureys via mailop wrote:
> >      We decided to keep this because I read that some webmail clients are
> >      planning to support BIMI without checking for certificates, or,
> >      perhaps, also displaying a little lock icon in the corner of the
> >      sender's BIMI-style logo image where certification is verified.
> > 
> > This is exactly what I have in mind for my client, thanks for publishing 
> > your
> > logo in an easily accessible and standard way :)
> > 
> > Groetjes,
> > Louis
> > 
> > 
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