Obligatory: https://web.mit.edu/jemorris/humor/500-miles

Scott

On Wednesday, 14/08/2024 at 19:30 Dave Crocker via mailop wrote:









On 8/14/2024 3:17 PM, Slavko via mailop wrote:
 

 

Dňa 14. augusta 2024 13:48:38 UTC používateľ Dave Crocker via
mailop [1] napísal:  

 Making a distance-sensitive assumption about traffic behavior is a
suprisingly bad idea for anything having to do with the Internet. 
Resources and their uses can be -- and often are -- a long way away
and using connections with wildly varied performance characteristics. 


 But we talk about 300 sec vs. 30 sec timeout for **TLS handshake**. 

 That is why I was careful not to argue against timeouts, per se, but
merely not to consider expected distance as a factor.



There are a number of reasons for needing timeouts.  And the choice
of how long or short one should be often is operationally subjective.



Just don't make an assumption about the distance between user and
server as part of the analysis.








 

Anyway, i understand original suggestion not as distance in meters,
but as distance to contact... And that distance is definitelly
different for SMTP and for Submission(S). 

 I mean distance in any terms at all.  Don't assume the user is
distant or close in miles or fast or slow in response time.  Or high
or low in bandwidth.



One of the serious problems with having excellent, high performance,
highly reliable connections for so many of us, for so much of the
time, is that it leads to designers and admins thinking that that
operational reality applies to everyone, all the time.  It doesn't.



 



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