You're right; I should have phrased that a bit differently.  It should
read "the people whom the imperialists are trying to conquer."
RE

On Fri, 11 Dec 1998, Oliver P Metzger wrote:

> To what extent did the Romans conquer the Germans?  What you say seems to be
> true in proportion to the degree to which "the conquered" are in fact
> conquered.  Certainly, the Romans didn't control Germany the way the British
> controlled their empire.  And praise for those who you have not truly
> conquered may just be... praise.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: RANDI C ELDEVIK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Friday, December 11, 1998 5:56 PM
> Subject: Re: VIRGIL: furor
> 
> 
> >It is generally agreed that Tacitus idealized the Germanic barbarians to
> >some extent, in order to make the point that his fellow Romans couldn't
> >afford to fall into slackness and decadence.  Whenever a writer belonging
> >to an imperialistic people praises certain virtues that the conquered have
> >and the conquerors lack, it should probably be viewed as a rhetorical
> >trope--i.e., "If THEY can live a moral life, then WE, who are really their
> >superiors, ought to be able to do so _a fortiori_."  In other words, the
> >writer doesn't really believe deep down that the Others are better than
> >his own people, but he wants to shame his own people into living up to
> >higher standards.  Aphra Behn does this sort of thing in _Oroonoko_, a
> >work written just when the English were on the cusp of empire; no doubt
> >many other British writers of the last three hundred years have done
> >likewise.  So, you see, it's not that Tacitus wants to abandon Romanitas
> >and "go native"; rather, he is imaginatively projecting onto the
> >Germanic peoples some aspects of old-style Romanitas that the Romans
> >themselves have, to his regret, been neglecting.  _Germania_ therefore is
> >not an altogether reliable source of factual information about the
> >Germanic peoples; it is more a wake-up call for the Roman people.
> >Randi Eldevik
> >Oklahoma State University
> >
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