On Erato: extremely notable, I think, that Apollonius began the second half
of the Argonautica (which I think has just as much influence on Aeneid as
Homer does) in exactly the same way

On Venus: I agree with you class - there must be a link. Virgil knew De
natura rerum so well (esp for Georgics). All your reasons are right, and
together make a fairly compelling motive for Virgil's extensive use. In
addition, how about the possibility that Venus was simply more interesting,
in a literary way - she provided more possibilities and the chance for some
rather 'fun' encounters, such as that in book1. I can imagine our poet being
coaxed by such an opportunity.

Dan King
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From: David Wilson-Okamura <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Monday, November 01, 1999 9:31 PM
Subject: VIRGIL: why Venus?


> A couple weeks ago I asked my epic students why Virgil asked Erato
> (sometimes identified as the muse of love poetry) to preside over the
> second half of the Aeneid. We came up with the usual answer (Turnus is
> fighting in order to obtain Lavinia as his bride), but I'm still not
> entirely satisfied on this point.
>
> Having said that, it seems to me there's an even more important, and more
> obvious, question to be asked on this subject: why does is Venus (of all
> people, I mean, goddesses) so prominent in the Aeneid? Some explanations:
>
> - Julius Caesar thought he had a special relationship with Venus, as did
Rome.
>
> - She is Aeneas's mother; there's not much Virgil can do to change this
>
> Still, why does she have to show up so often in the poem? After all,
Virgil
> deviates from the historical tradition in lots of other places. Wouldn't
> Apollo (Octavian's patron deity) have been more appropriate?
>
> One explanation which occurred to me while I was reading an old article on
> Botticelli's Venus (as she appears in Primavera) is that Virgil's Venus is
> the goddess of concord and propagation addressed by Lucretius at the
> beginning of De rerum natura. I tried this out in class, and got what I
> took to be a positive response, but then they're mostly English majors; as
> such they're TRAINED to look for connections.
>
> And of course no one wants to say the teacher's idea is stupid. So I bring
> the question to you: what think the mantovani?
>
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> Macalester College      Virgil Tradition: discussion, bibliography, &c.
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