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Usually better to posit that the impression you have represents 'a later state' rather than 'a second state' (or, worse, 'the second state') of the plate, unless you know for a fact that there was no additional interference by an engraver, resulting in an intermediate state, between the states you are comparing. Unless, of course, you're using 'second' in the rigid Latin sense of 'secundus' = 'following'. Curious, too, that the plate seems to have become taller and narrower (or wider and shorter) over time. Or is it just different damping and shrinkage of paper? What did you measure, please? ________________________________ Andrew S Cook PhD FRHistS FRSA Map Archivist, India Office Records Asia, Pacific & Africa Collections T +44 (0) 20 7412 7828 F +44 (0) 20 7412 7641 The British Library 96 Euston Road London NW1 2DB www.bl.uk ________________________________ -----Original Message----- From: maphist-boun...@geo.uu.nl [mailto:maphist-boun...@geo.uu.nl] On Behalf Of Alfred Moldovan Sent: 14 April 2010 10:26 To: 'Discussion group for map history' Cc: Rubin Ayelet; hgol...@terrapartners.com Subject: RE: [MapHist] Lafreri Holy land maps I have just examined the two maps on-line side by side on two screens and there is no question that the Camacio 1568 (273mm X 491mm) is a second state of the Salamanca 1548 (261mm X 510mm). Has anyone commented on this in any publication? AM Alfred Moldovan, MD 444 Central Park West New York, NY 10025 Tel. 212.865.2828 Fax: 212.865.3111 -----Original Message----- From: maphist-boun...@geo.uu.nl [mailto:maphist-boun...@geo.uu.nl] On Behalf Of Alfred Moldovan Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 4:49 AM To: maph...@geog.uu.nl Subject: [MapHist] Lafreri Holy land maps I just had the occasion to compare the Lafrerei Salamanca 1548 Holy Land, to the Lafreri Camacio 1568 (#3 Sotheby London Auction 5/6/2010). Except for the "waves" in the Mediterranean, they are almost exactly the same. Did Camacio copy Salamanca or even use the same plate? Anybody have any information? AM Alfred Moldovan, MD 444 Central Park West New York, NY 10025 Tel. 212.865.2828 Fax: 212.865.3111 _______________________________________________ MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography hosted by the Faculty of Geosciences, University of Utrecht. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of Utrecht. The University of Utrecht does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. List Information: http://www.maphist.nl Maphist mailing list Maphist@geo.uu.nl http://mailman.geo.uu.nl/mailman/listinfo/maphist
