>> The ri=N option asks senders to discard N/(N+1) of the reports they
>> might generate.  It's not clear to me what this is supposed to
>> accomplish.

>Here I disagree.  Assuming senders implement this as specified (and yes, I 
>know 
>they all won't) I think some kind of a global fractional rate is better than a 
>per sender volume.  In applications where I've seen similar things done in 
>private arrangements, the goal is to get a statistically valid sample of data 
>without putting excessing strain on sending or receiving systems.

If the goal is to get a sample rather than to rate limit, it makes
sense.  Please say that so you don't get the same complaint the next
time someone looks at it.  A percentage would be easier to explain and
no harder to implement.

>the target domain is the same as for the initial record (this is described in 
>paragraph 6.1 of RFC 4408), so I think for redirect it is OK to process them.

Don't feel strongly either way.

>> I would shrink 6.3 somewhat and just say that the envelope of any
>> report sent to an address found using the process in this document
>> MUST have an envelope that produces an SPF Pass.
>
>You think that's better than <> for Mail From and HELO/EHLO that Pass?  What 
>about the rest of the text?  Just ditch it?  I'm not sure I'm following you 
>here, so I'd appreciate it if you would amplify (with a proposed 6.3 text).

You say to use a null bounce address and a HELO with a domain that
produces an SPF Pass.  I say use whatever bounce address you want, but
be sure that it produces an SPF Pass.  I don't see any practical
advantage to requiring a null bounce address.  If it's not null, and
the r= address doesn't work, the reporter might get the report bounced
back, but if I were a reporter I'd prefer to know if my reports were
going into the void so I could stop sending them.

R's,
John
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