+1 to what both Giles and Ian are saying. Skip the hype. Focus on real value being seen by users. Educate, don't confuse.
On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 7:22 PM, Ian Rae <i...@cloudops.com> wrote: > Absolutely Giles. With the Citrix exit from the community it is time for > the large users and commercial supporters to reboot the effort to build an > Apache CloudStack related marketing alliance. This can be done as a lean > and agile effort, and is less about having a hype machine and more about > sharing information with the world on key use cases, success stories, etc…. > That CloudStack is the dark matter of the open source cloud computing world > is of benefit to none. > > I realize most analysts and certainly much of the OpenStack community > would prefer Apache CloudStack to remain in obscurity but in the real world > it has sustainable and defensible value for use cases that OpenStack, and > other vendor driven projects are unable to effectively address. > > CloudOps has always believed the market is not an either/or proposition. > We have a responsibility to make the capabilities and key use cases widely > known, especially since the Apache Foundation cannot do it. We need to work > on this now. > > Ian > > On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 1:54 AM, Giles Sirett <giles.sir...@shapeblue.com> > wrote: > >> Ilya - I agree 100% - this is a really good testament to the quality of >> our software and the effort by this community >> >> Although it gauls me slightly to have to caveat everything with "despite >> the marketing" and "despite the committer base" >> >> >> We here all know that Cloudstack is the "invisible man" in this space. We >> all know its in widespread adoption but it continues to not get the >> attention of AN Other project >> >> >> This can be changed, but we are a user led community. It can be changed >> by our largescale users coming out and showing their public support for >> this project. 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