all, please stop with this nonsense. We will definitely not use a Slogan including "kickass". We need constructive ideas ... not ironic statements.
Thank you All the best Andy On 16 September 2015 at 22:55, Harald Kisch <haraldki...@gmail.com> wrote: > Slogan #3: "kickass database for the future" > > +1 > > harald > > On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 9:47 PM, Johs Ensby <j...@b2w.com> wrote: > > > Fair and square challenge, Jan > > I also appreciate the emotional energy and don't want to be in the > > crossfire, but let it keep its stated direction: "kickass database for > the > > future" > > > > Johs > > > > PS > > Since this still is the VOTE thread.. > > > > +1 > > Slogan #3: "kickass database for the future" > > > > > > > On 16. sep. 2015, at 21.06, Jan Lehnardt <j...@apache.org> wrote: > > > > > > For the CouchApp lovers in this thread: > > > > > > The code that powers CouchApps in CouchDB hasn’t been touched for half > a > > decade. It has no maintainers, it is buggy, lacks features, and nobody > who > > is active on the project has any interest in getting involved. > > > > > > We are here to discuss the future of CouchDB and it is evident that > > CouchApp-like / Webserver/Appserver/Database-hybrid features are not it, > > regardless of how excited or invested you are. > > > > > > If you REALLY REALLY care about this particular feature set, you will > > have to step and MAKE IT WORK in CouchDB. That means getting into the > dirty > > C, Erlang and JS parts of CouchDB and making this ready for the future. > If > > you say, well, it isn’t so much work as I say, great! Get cracking. > > > > > > If you can’t get together and push this forward, the project will go > > with a direction that its direct contributors are happy to work on, to > > maintain, fix and improve. And then any discussion about how to maybe > > phrase CouchDB’s marketing message in a way that CouchApps are still hot > > are totally NOT where this is going. > > > > > > You won’t be willing the project into submission for you pet features > by > > teaming up on these discussions as a very vocal (dare I say attention > > vampire) minority, while the rest of us are quietly trying to ship a kick > > as database for the future. > > > > > > This is open source, we all get a say in where we want to see things > > going, but at the end of the day, you will have to put in the elbow > grease > > to make things happen like you want them. We are liberal with giving out > > committership, there are literally no barriers to entry, except for a > > half-decade old pile of technical debt that nobody else dares to touch. > > > > > > *drops mic* > > > > > > *picks up mic again* > > > > > > PS: before you consider turning this into an ad-hominem attack, or some > > insinuation that I am abusing my PMC Chair position to push through my > > personal agenda or vendetta against you and your loved ones, or any of > this > > sort of crap (that has come up before), keep it to yourself, thanks. > > > > > >> On 16 Sep 2015, at 14:42, ermouth <ermo...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> > > >>> what went wrong? > > >>> how and where do we collect ideas about a slogan? > > >> > > >> ML is unsuitable – low engagement, no navigation, zillions of > cluttering > > >>>>>> in replies, inability to participate if you subscribed after topic > > was > > >> issued and so on. Only flaming enthuziasts can use this tool, all > others > > >> just pass by. Apache better understand it, enforcing usage of this > tool. > > >> > > >> And even for enthuziasts it‘s hard to track topics, splitted into > > several > > >> threads. You can only do it only in inbox – all web UI are even more > > ugly. > > >> > > >>> Imo this should be a form where > > >> > > >> Form seems too much for slogan. Twitter is enough good, restricts > length > > >> and provides perfect engagement. If you ask on twi (and do it at least > > >> three times taking in account timezones), I think you could receive a > > lot > > >> of good new slogans. > > >> > > >> Since slogans all are short, it wouldn‘t be hard to create short list > – > > >> about 10-15-20 positions I think. > > >> > > >> For final poll there exist a lot of online instruments. Also voting > > should > > >> hide poll results for person until he or she votes – it titillates > > person‘s > > >> curiosity and motivates to make a click. Option ‘I do not want to > vote, > > >> want to see results’ is also good to ensure you‘ll have no random > clicks > > >> just to uncover current results. > > >> > > >>> what did we discuss if most of the proposals are voted with -1 > > >> > > >> It only means that both options proposed for voting are weak. > > >> > > >> BR > > >> > > >> ermouth > > > > > > -- > > > Professional Support for Apache CouchDB: > > > http://www.neighbourhood.ie/couchdb-support/ > > > > > > > > -- Andy Wenk Hamburg - Germany RockIt! GPG fingerprint: C044 8322 9E12 1483 4FEC 9452 B65D 6BE3 9ED3 9588 https://people.apache.org/keys/committer/andywenk.asc
