Sorry, Charles, but it's not just that Claudio was in the shadows. We
also have the David and Olivier there. And these two can not ignore what
was discussed in open our local listings. Another thing, I think there
is some confusion. Alta is a formal institution, from what I see.
Colibre,however, is not. It was just a name we wanted to give to the
Brazilian community to replace"Gubro (BrOffice Users Group), which is a
very interesting local project in the dissemination of the product.

Regards,

Luiz Oliveira

> Paulo,
>
> This is just a comment from my side as you keep asking a question that
> I feel I had answered before, but you believe I haven't, so let me
> answer to the question again. It's about your question on the North
> American LibreOffice DVD team and website and the Brazilian one. 
>
> Take a look at the two website. The NA LibreOffice DVD team has a
> website that is focused on a DVD project, that encompasses multiple
> languages. It is not a traditional "native-language" team, to use the
> OOo parlance, and it does not try to even harbour the full TDF / LO
> colours and logos. The NA DVD team has formed and debated here, on this
> mailing lists and on others (website and discuss); they did this in the
> open for everyone to see, the SC knew about (or could not ignore it as
> it was happening here), and they were generally very delicate about
> trademarks, using of terms, etc. 
>
> I hope you understand the difference better now. Also, I would like, as
> another general comment, to remind you and everyone that Claudio is
> also part of the core team of TDF. I am surprised that he hasn't been
> more active on this particular topic. That's just my feeling, perhaps
> I'm wrong. TDF does not take sides, were it between ALTA and Colibre.
> Frankly we can't, we shouldn't, we won't. It's not our job. The
> situation is what it is, it's unfortunate, but we want to deal with the
> Brazilian community as a whole. It's a very tempting for you or others,
> to think TDF will take sides, even "secretly". What TDF wants is to
> work and help the community work, that's it. We're not interested in
> local fightings, and should I need to write it again, the Brazilian
> community is most welcome here. It is your home.
>
> Best,
>
> Charles.
>


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