Hello. It's just an idea I want to promote, because I think it can be more interesting than some people think. Anyone can foorward the idea I expressed to anyone that can help to make it reality, I just want to become reality as an user of Libreoffice and other text editors. OASIS seems a good candidate for this, even other office suites or advanced text editors.
The point of RTCE is not just for office applications, but any text editor targeted at not just very simple functionality. So this can be a wide standard in terms of possible adoption, and maybe even add interoperability with online projects like EtherPad. Regards. On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 9:51 PM, Tom Davies <tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > Hi :) > I think it might be good to forward this to OASIS. THey already have > collaboration between various projects to produce OpenDocument Format > specifications. I think that is part of what is being called for here? A > specification that can be shared by the various existing OpenSource office > applications? > Regards from > Tom :) > > > > --- On Fri, 14/10/11, timofonic timofonic <timofo...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> From: timofonic timofonic <timofo...@gmail.com> >> Subject: [libreoffice-marketing] What about Real-time collaborative editing >> (RTCE) in LibreOffice? A simple user POW proposal >> To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org >> Date: Friday, 14 October, 2011, 16:04 >> Hello to everyone. >> >> I'm just an user of LibreOffice, no developer at all. But I >> think >> maybe this can be an interesting discussion with the more >> skilled >> people involved into the project. >> >> Since the apparition of SubEthaEdit for Macs, the >> real-time >> collaborative editing (from now on referred as RTCE) >> started to rise >> from these days. The Web 2.0 phonomenom made RTCE even more >> known with >> Writely and EtherPad, then Google bought both (but EhterPad >> now >> remains as a FOSS project) to integrate resources to the >> Google Docs >> online Office suite. >> >> There are editors that already support RTCE, like AbiWord >> (by using >> AbiCollab extension), ACE, Emacs (by extensions like Rudel >> or others) >> and Gobby. Unfortunately there aren't a strong open >> standard protocol >> shared among them, so interoperability is a big issue >> there. >> >> RTCE is something thinked before in OpenOffice and seems >> also taken in >> account in LibreOffice as future ideas to develop, but the >> approach >> and ideas behind it were primitive or their importance is >> still not >> enough considered. >> >> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Crazy_Ideas#Simple_server-based_collaborative_editing >> >> There's an open RTCE protocol named Infinote ( http://infinote.org ), >> a redesign of the Obby protocol that is part of Gobby and >> implemented >> in libinfinity. There's a server implementation named >> Infinoted and >> the protocol is already user by some third party >> applications but the >> popularity is quite low at this moment. >> >> There's "jarn.xmpp.collaboration" >> (http://pypi.python.org/pypi/jarn.xmpp.collaboration), a >> XMPP protocol >> extension targeted at RTCE. The protocol is still quite >> young, but >> still actively developed. >> >> The use of an open protocol standard would not just help >> interoperability between different projects, but also >> improve the >> protocol for being more flexible and powerful over time in >> the same >> way of ODF. >> >> While interoperability with existing projects is very cool >> and nice, >> this isn't going to resolve the issue in the long term. >> Those projects >> will stay incompatible between them, and each new project >> may choose a >> new protocol that LibreOffice developers would need to >> implement it. >> >> I understand an initiative like this isn't easy at all, >> because it's >> not only developing a powerful and well documented RTCE >> protocol. Like >> in the example of Infinote, that means nothing if the >> protocol isn't >> adopted and promoted widely by other related projects. >> >> This is a proposal from the user point of view, but I hope >> to make >> some people think about it. In my opinion this could be a >> "killer app" >> for LibreOffice and also gain popularity in >> education/business/government environments too. >> >> I'm supossing this concept would require developer efforts, >> lots of >> PR, contacting with other organizations and such. Make >> people agree on >> standards seems not easy, but I think is possible if people >> do the >> necessary effort (as showed in ODF). >> >> With a bit of research from my illiterate perspective, I >> already found >> other theorical and practical proposals and experiments on >> RTCE. So I >> think more skilled people can investigate further on the >> tecnical side >> of this if there's enough interest on it. >> >> Please think about this proposal and give your opinions. >> I hope my >> thinking can be at least a bit useful to the community to >> start an >> interesting discussion about the topic. >> >> Regards. >> >> PS: I think this can be even more interesting to >> investigate from now >> on since the appearing of the LibreOffice Online project. >> >> -- >> Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org >> Problems? >> http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ >> Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette >> List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ >> All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived >> and cannot be deleted >> > > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted > > -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
