I am sorry to hear that too. But we can work together. On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 6:15 AM, Sean DALY <sdaly...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dave - I did already, see the threads > Sean > > > On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 2:50 PM, Dave Crossland <d...@lab6.com> wrote: > >> Hi Sean >> >> Sincerel I'm sorry to hear that. >> >> Please do share with us the old marketing strategy, I am keen to see it :) >> >> Cheers >> Dave >> On Jun 23, 2016 7:21 AM, "Sean DALY" <sdaly...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> OK Dave, you're the new Marketing Coordinator! >>> >>> Perhaps it's best that I bow out and become just an interested observer. >>> I just don't have the time to explain marketing fundamentals and also >>> develop strategy and execution. >>> >>> thanks & good luck >>> >>> Sean >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 6:41 AM, Dave Crossland <d...@lab6.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Sean >>>> >>>> On 22 June 2016 at 15:37, Sean DALY <sdaly...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> > >>>> > We agree on using Google AdWords, but no work has been done on >>>> communication >>>> > strategy, and although I am thrilled there is interest in marketing, >>>> I am >>>> > also very concerned that more emphasis seems to be on the media >>>> rather than >>>> > the message, and my requests that this be worked on before starting >>>> > campaigns aren't leading anywhere. >>>> >>>> Where you've requested this be worked on, Samson has got back to you >>>> with a proposal document, and there have been comments from members. >>>> >>>> If you want to lead the marketing effort, I think its incumbent upon >>>> you to either ask Samson to go over the feedback he got and use it to >>>> improve his proposal document and share a new version, if that is the >>>> next step you think he should take; or, to draft your own document >>>> that lays out the strategy that you think we ought to be working on >>>> together, and solicit comments on it. >>>> >>>> Do you see alternative actions to take to lead this somewhere? I'm >>>> eager to hear them :) >>>> >>>> If you agree those 2 paths forward would be good, please take one. >>>> >>>> > It's true that I am more interested in marketing to teachers than >>>> recruiting >>>> > FLOSS developers, but with social media it's more important than ever >>>> to >>>> > have an integrated plan. >>>> >>>> If you want an integrated plan, please work with Samson and myself and >>>> all other members to create one :) >>>> >>>> I am also waiting for a reply to my email asking you to provide links >>>> to the plans written in the past. >>>> >>>> > Dave, if this doesn't make sense to you, you can coordinate marketing >>>> from >>>> > now on, I'm not sure I have the energy to repeat myself over and >>>> over. I can >>>> > only say I know what works and what doesn't, and randomness in >>>> marketing >>>> > doesn't. >>>> >>>> I don't think Samson and I are opposed to following your lead. >>>> >>>> If you think our approach is 'random,' then please do work on a >>>> structured approach with us. >>>> >>>> Rather, I think what Samson and I are opposed to is inaction; you said >>>> on the call the other day - >>>> https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Vision_proposal_2016/Call_1 - that you >>>> have been "mystified" for the last 2-3 years on how to market Sugar, >>>> that in the early days you developed a good strategy - which I am yet >>>> to read - but a crisis developed in how to get tasks that you think >>>> needed to be done to become completed within a volunteer community. >>>> You didn't do them yourself, and no one did them, and so the marketing >>>> aspects of Sugar have dried up. >>>> >>>> Well, here is me and Samson eager to volunteer and get things going. >>>> >>>> If you want to "assign" tasks to us, we might say that we don't take >>>> orders. Sure. But if you want to work with us to list all the possible >>>> tasks, and to prioritise them, and then to do these tasks yourself and >>>> ask us to join you in doing them, then I expect we will be happy to >>>> join you. >>>> >>>> Samson, do you agree? >>>> >>> >>> >
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