Yes, I have Reed's books on these issues. The International edition of _The
Origin of the Family_ has an updating intro by anthropologist Eleanor
Leacock.

The Manifesto of the Communist Party has one modification of its famous
first line, done by Engels later in life. There is a footnote modifying the
proposition "History is a history of class struggles" such that "history" as
class struggle begins at the breaking up of the primitive commune. In this
Engels makes the same correction of _The German Ideology_ statement about
production being the origin of humanly distinct society that I did at the
beginning of this thread.

Again , I'd say the critical difference between human labor and animals'
"labor" is that humans have ideas.  This allows the labor to be more social
than animals' labor, both in social connections with living members of the
species, for example in hunting parties, or with dead members of the species
, as in ancestor "worship".

Charles

Steve Gabosch bebop101 at comcast.net 

This particular discussion has moved in a different direction from 
investigating dialectics per se, and could be considered in part to be 
about the labor theory of the origins of humanity.  In a way, we having 
been using the terms "production" and "labor" synonymously in our recent 
dialogues.  But the concept of labor - and how it is different from animal 
activity - is in my opinion the key that unlocks the puzzle of how humanity 
originated and what it means to be human.

I think Charles is entirely correct in going back to Marx, especially his 
most advanced work, _Capital_, to look for a dialectical materialist 
analysis of labor.  I also basically agree with his insistence that it is 
the *social* dimension of labor that differentiates what humans do from all 
other species.  However, since most animals are also "social," a deeper 
inquiry is needed.

More very good discussion of these issues can be found in George Novack's 
essay "The Labor Theory of the Origins of Humanity," contained in his 
collection _Humanism and Socialism_ (1973).  Novack is what I would call a 
Marxist continuist, meaning, he consciously continues in the tradition of 
Marx and Engels, and advocates a continuation of the fundamental concepts 
of Marxist doctrine.  He returns to this labor theory theme many times in 
his writings, such as in his "Long View of History" contained in his 
collection _Understanding History_ (1972).  Another Marxist continuist 
relevant to this issue of the origins of humanity is Evelyn Reed, who wrote 
numerous essays and books on Marxist anthropology in the '50's, '60's and 
'70's that also relied heavily on Marx and Engels.  Her collection _Sexism 
and Science_ (1978) includes several of these essays.  She also wrote a 
good introduction to _The Origin of the Family, Private Property and the 
State_ by Engels in a 1972 Pathfinder Press edition.  This edition also 
contains the Engels essay "The Part Played By Labor in the Transition from 
Ape to Human," written in 1876 but not published until 1896, a year after 
his death.  All of these books are in print and available from Pathfinder 
Press.  BTW, for those unfamiliar with these writers, both were leaders of 
the US Socialist Workers Party and were longtime partners until Reed's 
death in 1979.

I encourage Charles to incorporate these writings in his studies about the 
origins of humanity.

- Steve




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