On Fri, 5 Aug 2005 10:42:02 +0100 "Paddy Hackett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > CB: We can claim that we are the center of the universe FOR US, yes.
> Consequently to suggest that a modest > unestablished notion of humans 'obliged to look out for themselves' > can > serve as a driving force of the future being of man is not a valid > assumption. It is an unestablished form of naive idealism. It is > this > problem that is also at the heart of the problems and ambiguities of > > marxism. It is these matters that need to be thrashed out. Darwin's > dangerous idea is that it irrefutably demonstrated that > consciousness, and > thereby god, is an unnecessary element in any objective outline of > natural > development. Homo sapiens if a result of the ongoing process of > evolution by > natural selection. This means that the brain and its consciousness > is > inherently an evolutionary product of a universal production > process. It should be noted that the relationships between Marxism and Darwinism have come up for discussion on this list in the past. For example, see the following: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/pipermail/marxism-thaxis/2002-February/017529. html http://lists.econ.utah.edu/pipermail/marxism-thaxis/2002-February/017537. html http://lists.econ.utah.edu/pipermail/marxism-thaxis/2002-February/017538. html http://www.mail-archive.com/marxism-thaxis@lists.econ.utah.edu/msg00306.h tml > Production is not necessarily a consciously driven process as is > mistakenly > believed by some leftists. One of the fundamental problems with > marxism is > its failure to grapple with the significance of Darwin and the > modern > synthesis. As a young marxist Darwin never featured much in the > studies and > discussions that engaged me in or out of college. Indeed Freud was > more of a > topical issue than was Darwin. This was largely because much of > marxism > lacked the confidence to engage with his Darwin's dangerous idea. > The > extent and depth of its subservisiveness unettled it. > > Paddy Hackett > > > _______________________________________________ Marxism-Thaxis mailing list Marxism-Thaxis@lists.econ.utah.edu To change your options or unsubscribe go to: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/listinfo/marxism-thaxis