Hi Jim Interesting!
You seem very familiar with the Vienna Circle. What was it that attracted your interest in it? Paddy Hackett ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Farmelant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <marxism-thaxis@lists.econ.utah.edu> Cc: <marxism-thaxis@lists.econ.utah.edu> Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 2:09 AM Subject: Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Vienna Circle etc. On Wed, 2 Apr 2008 09:53:37 +0100 "rasherrs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Thank you for the help in relation to the Vienna Circle. It is a > circle > that has been much misunderstood in radical left circles. When I was > in my > late teens I was led to the view that it was a crassly reactionary > group. The Frankfurters in particular pushed that view of the Circle, as did many Soviet or pro-Soviet writers, who emphasized Leninist opposition to Machism. > Why did Wittgenstein not view himself as a logical positivist? The Circle admired Wittgenstein, but he was not inclined to reciprocate. He thought that they misunderstood what he was attempting to do. He was willing to meet with individual members of the Circle, with people like Schlick, Carnap, Feigl etc. but he refused to meet with the Circle as a whole. > What, if > any, the principal difference(s) between their philosophies in these > early > days. I can see why there is a difference between Popper and Logical > > Positivism --the question of verfiability over falsifiablity. There were differences with in the Circle over such issues as physicalist realism versus phenonomenalism, coherence theories of truth versus correspondence theories of truth. Later on there were somewhat different understandings of what was entailed by the unity of science. Did that mean that a straight forward reductionist program was possible with everything being ultimately reduced to the laws of chemistry and physics, or did it simply mean that all meaningul propositions about the world, whether those propositions be from the natural sciences, or the behavioral and social sciences, were expressible in terms of physicalist language? Neurath tended to champion holistic conceptions of truth and knowledge and he shied away from extreme reductionism. His positions were thus akin to those that many Marxists have held over the years. Jim F. > > Paddy Hackett > > ------------ > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ralph Dumain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <marxism-thaxis@lists.econ.utah.edu> > Cc: <marxism-thaxis@lists.econ.utah.edu> > Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 7:47 AM > Subject: Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Vienna Circle etc. > > > Interesting. I wonder if I should put this or similar items into > my > bibliography. This is a Marxist advocating the Popperian approach > as > a way of circumventing doctrinal rigidification. Can you think of > other Marxists who have taken this road? > > > > _______________________________________________ > Marxism-Thaxis mailing list > Marxism-Thaxis@lists.econ.utah.edu > To change your options or unsubscribe go to: > http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/listinfo/marxism-thaxis > > _______________________________________________ Marxism-Thaxis mailing list Marxism-Thaxis@lists.econ.utah.edu To change your options or unsubscribe go to: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/listinfo/marxism-thaxis _______________________________________________ Marxism-Thaxis mailing list Marxism-Thaxis@lists.econ.utah.edu To change your options or unsubscribe go to: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/listinfo/marxism-thaxis
