In a message dated 12/25/2008 2:57:08 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, jann...@gmail.com writes: >>Thanks for the reference to this loathsome piece of shit,<<
Well for me the topic is something like a glass of sour milk being dashed onto the redhot glowing elements of an electric heater. Could anything good come from it? I tried by going back to the Young Hegelians. I guess some liberation theologians have ended their theological careers and become Marxists. CJ Comment I actually took part in the Liberation Theology in the Americas: Detroit 2 conference back in 1975 as a party assignment. 1975 . . . was a lifetime ago and I have long ago discarded the mountainous amount of literature on this subject of "The God of the Oppressed." I believe that there was a brief discussion of Liberation Theology on this list maybe 4 or five years ago with Ralph - being Ralph, being extremely vocal on the hypocrisy of Black Theology and Liberation Theology in general. 1975 was still part of the hay day of the movement and the strike wave in Detroit was in the process of peaking. On this basis a section of the organizing of the Detroit 2 Conference were eager for us "Black Communists" to be a part of this event. Although Cone is credited with the first modern attempts to merge Black Theology - Christianity, with Marxism, I believe - if memory serves me correct, that the young Cornel West did his "ghost writing." Now I remember why Ralph was upset. I stated that I had met Cornel West at this Conference and that he later introduced me to Kant and several other philosophers. At any rate, a Black Theology is rapidly losing its luster and appeal at this stage of post segregation America. Back in 1975 the attempt to merge - actually find common ground, with Marxism and "the Marxists" was due to the impact of the communists on the social struggle in America, and the passing over of the League of Revolutionary Black Workers to the California Communist League. Then again, most of the comrades in Detroit - not all, were not hostile to the Church and especially the small "store front" churches that are abundant in most black areas of any town USA. The Detroit 2 Conference actually bought together real organizers in the social movement. A few of these activists were hostile to the very idea of communism. On the level of "philosophy" absolutely no one - outside reactionaries, can dismiss the brilliance of Marx statement on the revolutionary process society passes through. Marx materialist conception of history is summarized in the Preface to his Contribution to a Critique of Political Economy. As a practical question it never occurred to me to challenge individuals about their belief system and I generally work with people around specific issues that do not require philosophic debate as a precondition for activity. Further, I long ago gave up philosophic discussions under the banner of being "anti-philosophy." After all the philosophers have only interpreted the world in various ways. The communist approach is to more accurately describe the world in which we live as the basis to grapple with the practical questions facing the proletarian movement. I leave the great philosophic debates to my betters. Waistline **************One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000025) _______________________________________________ Marxism-Thaxis mailing list Marxism-Thaxis@lists.econ.utah.edu To change your options or unsubscribe go to: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/listinfo/marxism-thaxis
