^^^^^ CB: Well, yeah, that more later WL: The issue is not "me" or "who I am," rather the issue is how are comrades to frame the current struggle of the working class.
^^^^^^ CB: Well, yeuuuh. Is you is or is you ain't ain't the issue. I figured that out 30 years ago. And some comrades around here are not framing the current struggles of the working class correctly. when they fail to see that Obama is the leader of the working class right now. Stuff like "O is the CEO of the capitalists is bad framing. Hisotric, maybe world historic erroneous framing. Comment The issue is not what you figured out 30 years ago. The issue of framing Obama as CEO of the capitalist class versus a refusal to articulate class and class, is the issue of the purpose of this list serv and why it calls itself Marxist-Theory-Practice. Marxism-Thaxis The problem in my estimate is seeking whose is wrong rather than what is wrong. ***************** Which side are you on is not a conception of Democrats or Republicans but workers and capitalist. WL. ^^^^^^^ CB: Wrong. Right now the Democrats of Obama is the side to be on. Which side are you on ? ************* Reply It is wrong not to be on the side of the Democratic party, is asmuch as President Obama is the head Democrat. The side of the proletariat as it spontaneous strives to realize and express itself as a class, is the side I am on and have been on for a while. Simply because I advocate for say welfare and a part of the political establishment expand welfare does not mean I am on their side. What has happened is called the intersection of class interest. Even my voting for Obama does not mean I am on the Democrat of Obama side. Momentary identity of intersecting class interest always occur in any field of politics. Anyone elected to any office understands this plain most common aspect of politics. 8 years from now and then 12 years from now, the evidence is that I stand a good chance of being found on the side I have been on for the past 40 years. The side to be on is always the issues dear to the working class and on this basis various segments of the political establishment line up. I am not on the side of the Democrats of Obama. You are free to become a democrat. Actually, brother you write as a social democrat and not a communist or Marxist. Your criticisms is basically against my use of the word class and capitalist. WL. (http://www.papercut.biz/emailStripper.htm) **************Need a job? Find employment help in your area. (http://yellowpages.aol.com/search?query=employment_agencies&ncid=emlcntusyelp00000005) _______________________________________________ Marxism-Thaxis mailing list Marxism-Thaxis@lists.econ.utah.edu To change your options or unsubscribe go to: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/listinfo/marxism-thaxis
