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...and email lists aren't parties. If you see the email list in this way, I'd urge you to push your chair back, log off, shut down the computer and take a week to reacquaint yourself with RL. And parties, as far as that goes, aren't microcosms of some future society. If you are trying to live your life in that shell, I think you should break out of it as well... Taken for what it is, this part of cyberspace--notwithstanding the subject--is not socially or democratically owned and managed. I don't even know how you could attempt such an experiment of doing this in a useful way..... The better analogy, frequently made, is that this is a different kind of "party." We're a group of people having a discussion as we're sitting around the moderator's living room. The host makes the rules. Each of us would probably do this a little differently, but that's the way it goes. The most important question is whether the list does anything at all for us we couldn't get any other way. I think our presence here rather answers that question. If it does, we should refrain from lighting large cheap cigars and throwing matches in the moderator's waste can. ML ________________________________________________ Send list submissions to: Marxism@greenhouse.economics.utah.edu Set your options at: http://greenhouse.economics.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com