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http://neutrinoscience.blogspot.com/2011/09/arriving-fashionable-late-for-party.html Supernova 1987a was a distance of 166,912 ± 10.1 light years [2] from Earth when it died. Taking these values we can calculate that the time difference between the neutrinos arriving at the neutrino observatories and the telescopes seeing SN1987a would be *2.48 x 10-5 x 166912 = 4.14 years* Combining the errors on the SN1987a distance, systematic and statistical errors of the Opera result we get a value of *4.14 ± 0.97 years* There is no evidence to support that this is the case - as I mentioned the neutrinos were seen just 3 hours before SN1987a was seen by optical telescopes. In this case the neutrinos did not arrive early for the party it was the light that was fashionably late! ________________________________________________ Send list submissions to: Marxism@greenhouse.economics.utah.edu Set your options at: http://greenhouse.economics.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com