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I think it's seen as a matter of course on this listserve. as to the other (disconnected) comment in your email about the association of what the left does with trends in the wider civic culture has been come up more than a few times. If yoju've just joined the list, you might check the archives. ML ________________________________________________ Send list submissions to: Marxism@greenhouse.economics.utah.edu Set your options at: http://greenhouse.economics.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com