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On 11/7/13 6:52 PM, Eli Stephens wrote:

Well, that cinches it. I mean, how could it NOT be a "revolution" if it's
the child of the progressive Saudi Arabian state?

Michael Karadjis took apart this Saudi project that attempts to do an end-run around the FSA:

http://article.gmane.org/gmane.politics.marxism.marxmail/172159/

So, for several months now, Saudi Arabia has been involved in trying to build a “national Syrian army” from Baathist defector military officers in Jordan. The project is backed by the US, with the difference that to
date, the Saudis have actually tried to get arms to the regular FSA
inside Syria in the south (and in the last couple of months have been
more successful), in order for this puppet force building in Jordan to
try to gain some credibility, whereas the US has tried its utmost to
block any weapons at all getting across to the FSA if it can, and bugger the need for cred, the US only intends its tools to come to power either in a palace coup, or, if the US does attack, from the top.

I agree that someone like Eli Stephens should be able to do better than a pointless one-liner like that. However, this new “Islamic Army” the Saudis are now backing is not the same thing as the “Syrian National Army” the Saudis were trying to build which Louis refers to here; rather, this is a new Saudi strategy, in tandem with their current very public spat with the US.

Let’s first see what’s wrong with Eli’s “response” to the article “Saudi Arabia to spend millions to train new rebel force.” “How could it NOT be a "revolution" if it's the child of the progressive Saudi Arabian state?” he asks.

1. So is this the first time you ever heard that Saudi Arabia (and its rival Qatar) has been backing elements of the Syrian uprising? Most observers have known that, after the initial Saudi, Qatari and Turkish robust backing of Assad in the first few months of the uprising in 2011, that by about July-August they had turned against Assad and the first two soon became known as the states arming sections of the uprising (and Turkey facilitating it). So if that is the issue, then, based on your logic (your magnificent analysis), then it has not been a revolution since July 2011, nothing new here at all. 2. We need to note that according to this logic, every time a state that is in any way reactionary (ie, most states in the world are capitalist) sends any military aid to any movement (which they often do for their own reasons in order to try to subvert it and try to bend it in their direction, without this meaning they are successful), no matter how else you judge that movement, that such a movement ceases to be a revolution, a liberation movement, or anything progressive whatsoever. I won’t give you a list, you can do your own research and cross out all the movements you previously had any sympathy for. 3. What is “it” in your statement? The article talks about Saudi backing of one particular formation, the new “Islamic Army,” heavily dominated by one largish mainstream Islamist militia (Liwa al-Islam) and lots of tiny satellites militias already around Liwa. Liwa al-Islam is a major group in the Damascus/south Syria region, where it has worked well with the secular FSA forces which are strong in the south. It is one of four the major components of the moderate-Islamist/semi-Islamist Syrian Islamic Liberation Front (SILF, consisting of these 4 and about 20 minor groups), which itself is one of the four major blocs of Syrian resistance, the other three being the secular/FSA/Supreme Military Command bloc, the hard-line, national-jihadist Syrian Islamic Front (SIF) and the global-jihadist groups, Jabhat al-Nusra and ISIS. Thus, since your criteria is Saudi support, this only proves that one component of one main bloc is not part of a revolution. 4. Since the new Saudi strategy is part of its angry conflict with the US over the latter’s abandonment of its imaginary war threat, its coddling of Tehran and its deal with Russia and Assad over the chemical issue, as well as months of Saudi frustration over the US attempting to block the Saudis from even aiding the *secular* SMC/FSA, we can at least understand that now that Eli has suddenly discovered Saudi backing of some Syrian rebels, we can abandon all the outright bullshit and lies that so many leftists have casually made over the last 2 years about US arming of the rebels. OK, now finally we understand the US (and UK, France etc) never sent even a bullet. Good, that’s progress.



5. Maybe we can take that one step further. Since the Saudis are doing this in the context of anger with the US, and indeed they turned down the UN role protesting both US abandonment of the anti-Assad struggle *and* unconditional US support fro Israel, perhaps, based on the BS “anti-imperialist” line, we can now welcome Saudi Arabia as part of the “anti-imperialist” agenda? Oh, hell, that makes things too complicated for the “anti-imperialists,” let’s leave that one for a while.



6. Since the article makes clear that a very major concern of the Saudis is the growth of influence of their arch-enemy within the Islamist terrain, Al-Qaida, and that part of their swing to backing a major mainstream Islamist movement (after trying for a year to adopt what they thought was the US line of support for the SMC, only to find out the US was only joking, see below), is precisely to try to reduce support for Al-Qaida, or if necessary confront it, can we now abandon the all the bullshit that so many leftists have casually dropped over the last 2 years about Saudi backing for Al-Qaida (including the witless repetition of the fantasy that the Saudis not only armed Al-Qaida with small arms but with chemical weapons, via some clumsy unknowing FSAers in tunnels)?



7. Oh bit on that, since all the left has continually told us that Al-Qaida is the worst enemy of humanity (well, in Syria at least, if not anywhere else), does this Saudi strategy mean that the Saudis are now progressive? Oh, hang on, but Al-Qaida is a lot more consistently anti-imperialist than even the Saudis in the current rage, or than the Assad regime at any time, doesn’t that make them the most progressive thing in Syria? Oh, fuck it becomes complicated to have an “anti-imperialist” line, doesn’t it?



Here's some other things.

The article states: "I don't see it producing any dramatic change yet. It's a political step. These new rebel formations seem to be relabelling themselves and creating new leadership structures. It's part of a quite parochial political game - and above all a competition for resources."



A competition for resources, precisely. You see, the fact that the West, with its alleged preference for secular rebels, or "moderates," whatever the US may mean by that, has never sent them a gun, and even in terms of other supplies, it has sent a few flak jaks, binoculars, some ready-meals, some ancient radios etc, does kind of mean the rebels, outgunned by a regime with a massive array of heavy weaponry which is continually supplied and refurbished by "peaceful" Russia and Iran, do need to look around.



Now when the rebels get too close to Al-Qaida, or a least try not to confront them, since Al-Qaida has constant supplies via its Iraqi Al-Qaida parent, then the VERY, VERY secular and VERY, VERY principled western left can denounce the FSA as "jihadists" and have an excuse to not support them and denounce them as the same as the regime (or worse).



But then when the FSA is forced to confront Al-Qaida all over Syria, as it has been for about 6 months, not because it wanted to, and not because they listened to the Americans who demanded that they do so, but rather because Al-Qaida attacked the FSA from behind while they were busy fighting the regime, or because the FSA simply stuck up for local people resisting religious repression, and so therefore some of these outgunned FSAers, fighting on 2 fronts, expressed some naïve but understandable sympathy for a western intervention, or even those who didn't but merely demanded western arms, well then the VERY VERY anti-imperialist and VERY VERY principled western left can denounce the FSA as "tools for imperialism" (while still not even mentioning their fight against the jihadists - indeed, the "left" can even denounce them as tools of both imperialism and the jihadists at the same time, because it is so much easier to be a leftists in the west with a computer than someone fighting an extremely murderous dictatorship and a murderous group of Islamists at the same time).



But so then, since the West gives them nothing at all, and the jihadists open another front against them, the secular SMC/FSA got arms from Saudi Arabia. Not much, but a little better than nothing. So then the VERY VERY etc etc leftists can denounce them as tools of the Saudi monarchy.



And now that a mainstream Islamist movement, cooperative with the secular FSA, and hostile to Al-Qaida, is getting Saudi backing, well that's all you need to know about them, isn't it? Obviously they are just tools of the theocracy.



Never mind that when the US was briefly jiving about "punishment strikes" after Assad's chemical apocalypse, Saudi Arabia was strongly supporting the proposed attack, while Liwa al-Islam, like all the Islamist and lots of the secular fighters, opposed it, even though they are fighters in the very suburbs that were attacked by chemicals:



"What matters to us is the question of: Who will America target its strike against? And why choose this particular time?" the statement asked. "The Assad regime has used chemical weapons dozens of times and the U.S. did not move a finger. Have they experienced a sudden awakening of conscience or do they feel that the jihadists are on the cusp of achieving a final victory, which will allow them to seize control over the country? This has driven the U.S. to act in the last 15 minutes to deliver the final blow to this tottering regime so it can present itself as a key player and impose its crew which it has been preparing for months to govern Syria" (http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2013/09/05/waiting_for_the_tomahawks_syrian_rebels_us_strikes).



I wonder who they meant by "its crew" the US has been preparing for months"? Probably some of the people in the US/Saudi centre of operations in Jordan. The Saudis were helping train them. Liwa al-Islam denounces them as puppets out to steal the revolution from them. That's because they are a genuine part of the Syrian revolution, a genuine part of the Syrian people, whose non-jihadist "Islam" represents the more traditionalist nature of much of the peasant and working class population of the vast Damascus suburbs, the base of the revolution, those left outside the "secular" bourgeois-nationalist program.



But to "the left", I guess all this just makes this formation an imperialist/Saudi/al-Qaida tool. Whatever.



Incidentally, how did the Saudis arrive here? The Saudis are Sunni Islamists, yes, but the problem is they hate the more moderate Muslim Brotherhood, which in any case is tied to their rival Qatar, and on the other hand they hate the global-jihadists, because both are revolutionary in a certain sense and their doctrines threaten the overthrow of the "apostate" monarchy. When the Saudis tried backing "national-jihadists" they found the problem that the latter had no qualms about working closely with the "global-jihadists" as long as they confronted the regime.



So around August 2012, the Saudis did a well-known turn towards supporting the secular SMC leadership, trying to bring on board other ex-Baathist defected officers in exile, trying to get some arms to the southern secular FSA rebels inside Syria from Jordan to establish credibility, not out of love for the SMC/FSA secular politics, but because that is what existed, and thus out of a desire to mould the ex-Baathist officers, "power secularists" if you like, into something that could block both the Qatari-backed Brotherhood on one side, and Al-Qaida on the other, while defeating the pro-Iranian regime, and hoping to have enough sway over the movement and via the ex-Baathist officers to prevent democratic revolution. All of that is a big ask: it is difficult when you are the Saudis and you are against nearly everyone. But the stability of the Jordanian monarchy, threatened by both the Brotherhood (its main opposition) and jihadists, became paramount.



The quest to establish a "Syrian National Army" that I refer to above was part of this: to try to replace the SMC, which had little control over the FSA and other rebels on the ground, with a more disciplined unit incorporating other ex-Baathist officers not currently inn the SMC. The idea was to be able to both control the democratic forces at the base better, while establishing a force that could eventually confront Al-Qaida as a "Sawha" movement.



The US was also in favour of a "Sawha" movement, but with several differences. First, the US has been demanding for a long time that the FSA launch a preemptive war on Al-Qaida, open a second front (the US aim, I believe, goes beyond a "Sawha": the US aims for the democratic and jihadist forces to destroy each other). Thus they refused to supply any arms to the SMC/FSA in the meantime. The Saudis believed you need a force with enough crfedibility in fighting the regime to then be a useful "sawha"; the US believes contrawise that they have to establish their credibility with the US first by first fighting a-Qaida before the US will give them a bone.



What this meant, remarkably, was that while the Saudis had turned "secularist" as they thought the US wanted, they found the US was only joking; despite conventional wisdom, the Saudis were supplying the secular FSA and the US was trying to block them:



As reporter Joanna Paraszczuk explained in June:

"The US and the Saudis are involved in a multilateral effort to support the insurgency from Jordanian bases. But, according to the sources, Washington had not only failed to supply "a single rifle or bullet to the FSA in Daraa" but had actively prevented deliveries, apparently because of concerns over which factions would receive the weapons. The situation also appears to be complicated by Jordan's fears that arms might find their way back into the Kingdom and contribute to instability there. The sources said the Saudi-backed weapons and ammunition are in warehouses in Jordan, and insurgents in Daraa and Damascus could be supplied "within hours" with anti-tank rockets and ammunition. The Saudis also have more weapons ready for airlift into Jordan, but US representatives are preventing this at the moment" (http://eaworldview.com/2013/06/23/syria-special-the-us-saudi-conflict-over-arms-to-insurgents/).


This is the background to the current US-Saudi spat, which intensified when the US formed its current alliance with Russia to basically keep Assad in power another year while he cooperates to get rid of his chemicals, in the meantime free to use all other conventional weapons of mass destruction, including the unconventional one, starving people to death in Gaza-style sieges.



The declaration by 11 rebel groups (which cut right across the main divides outlined above, even including some seculars) that they are not represented by the exile-based Syrian National Coalition (SNC), including rejection of the SNC's acceptance of the US-Russia strategy for the Geneva peace talks, and the fact that the "soft" wing of Al-Qaida (Ai-Nusra) was part of that declaration (which was also directed against the more violent wing of Al-Qaida, ISIS), set off alarm bells to the Saudis, that the Islamist forces in Syria are tempted to align with their arch enemy due to the flagrantly obvious betrayal of the US and the imperialist states.



Even though Al-Nusra hastened to declare that there was no new alliance at all, and that it was only a joint declaration against the SNC exile political leadership and its strategy, it was still too much for the Saudis.

Thus, together with the sheer frustration of the US attempting to block arms even to the secular forces, the Saudis have now swung into support for an important mainstream Islamist bloc (although even the article notes that the Saudis still want to convince Liwa al-Islam to remain under the official authority of the SMC, and to return to official support for the SNC (Liwa al-Islam had been one of the 11 groups that signed the anti-SNC declaration that got the Saudis so mad; the fact that its new Islamic Army refuses membership to both ISIS and also Al-Nusra indicates the Saudi influence).



It is somewhat difficult to see where al this will lead. One thing for sure however is that, while some of what I write may be wrong, and some may disagree with various details, the best way to deal with complex issues is to actually do some research, write something substantial, rather than trying to reduce incredibly complex situations to the absurd "certainties" of the "anti-imperialist" left. A version of this will shortly go up on my blog; and a longer, very detailed analysis is under preparation. Meantime, for background on some of these issues there are many articles there at http://mkaradjis.wordpress.com

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