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I submit further evidence. I had sent the message below both to HM and
to the Weekly Worker, in response to their good review of the
conference. I am not a sectarian, afaik. And how many of those $150
Brill books really reappear in Haymarket format? Very few from my view.
And why are the papers of the conference so sacrosanct? I can go to
David Harvey's website and get gratis downloads of his lectures as soon
as they're given. Same with countless others.
[my rejoinder slightly edited]
Dear Sebastian Budgen,
Thank you for taking the trouble to respond. Before you shut down any
opportunity to rejoin, may I add that the examples of organizations (the
many OWS movements such as Boston's with volunteer Doug Greene come to
mind, or again David Harvey's website or Democracy Now! fagodsake) that
tape these events and quite readily find enough dedicated volunteers,
without cumbersome bureaucratic red-tape, to have them timely posted
online and transcribed, are numerous, organizations that realize that
their proceedings are sufficiently valuable to activists everywhere,
time's a-wasting, and therefore they are worth getting out there asap.
HM has a certain reputation in this regard. I'm not the first or only
one to call attention to this. Your intemperate response seems to speak
eloquently to your indifference to the fact that this is the middle of
January and the event was held in mid-November, and I and others like me
still can't read a word or view a glimpse of what took place, nor do you
furnish any date by which you expect that we will ("will be gradually
put online as we receive them and get the time to do so"). That's kind
of sorry. There's no doubt that a lot of thought and energy goes into
what you do, that's a credit to you, certainly, but don't assume that
you're beyond reproach, or that you're not in many ways an exasperation
to many of us, who might take kindly to a little self-acknowledgement
and less high-Budgen-dudgeon. You might take this exchange to the board,
you certainly have my OK, I'll abide more intemperate remarks, and maybe
something positive could come of it.
Ralph Johansen
On 1/16/2012 5:16 AM, Sebastian Budgen wrote:
Dear Ralph Johansen,
no thanks at all for your snotty and arrogant email which you also
sent, quite bizarrely, to the /Weekly Worker/. You could have chosen
to ask us this question in a comradely manner, but the snarky and
snide route obviously suited you better. Perhaps you should consider
the possibility that if "the Left is insignificant and in deep
trouble", it is at least in part down to the prevalence of anti-social
little twits like yourself?
For the record - and not for you, since you are clearly a waste of
space - the papers from the conference will be gradually put online as
we receive them and get the time to do so, the journal relying
entirely on unpaid militant labour with out any secretarial or
administrative help. Moreover, the $100 Brill books that you choose to
make a dig at all come out also as affordable paperbacks with
Haymarket Books in the US - but to know that, one would have to be
bothered to find out, a task clearly beyond someone as lazy and
incompetent as yourself.
Don't ever write to us again.
Sebastian Budgen (personal capacity)
Member of the Historical Materialism Editorial Board
On 11 janv. 12, at 19:42, Journal of Historical Materialism wrote:
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Ralph Johansen <mdriscol...@charter.net
<mailto:mdriscol...@charter.net>>
Date: 11 January 2012 04:51
Subject: Proceedings of the Historical Materialism conference in
London in November
To: historicalmaterial...@soas.ac.uk
<mailto:historicalmaterial...@soas.ac.uk>
I am curious as to why the proceedings of the conference in London
sponsored by Historical Materialism in November are not being made
available online. Stat. I am not able to find them online when I
google historical materialism conference proceedings or Historical
Materialism. That's not ordinarily an insurmountable task. Look for
example at David Harvey's informative website. Is it because your
proceedings are being collected for another $100 book to be published
by Brill? If what was said there is so significant, why isn't it out
there for comrades all over the place to take notice of, discuss and
even learn from? Is it that this contribution to our urgent socialist
project is on hold until the press runs? Does this in any way
exemplify why the Left is insignificant, and in deep trouble?
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