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Thanks Gary. It is true my formulation of the Greens as neoliberal is one-sided and doesn't reflect the very real battles going on in within the organisation over policies, for example whether to support the fuel tax increases. It is good they eventually opposed that measure on the grounds it would hit the poor and low paid workers, and all to fund more roads. My description had in mind the Greens' support for a neoliberal carbon tax and neoliberal Emissions Trading Scheme. It was also meant not to label all greens as neoliberal but to point out to some of them the direction the organisation is going and the need to link up with others fighting back on the streets and in their workplaces against the Budget. I doubt this charterisation is an example of my 'Leninism'. My 'Zinovievism' perhaps, but not my 'Leninism'. John Passant ----- Original Message ----- From: Gary MacLennan To: En Passant with John Passant ; Activists and scholars in Marxist tradition Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 11:27 AM Subject: Re: [Marxism] Where to now for 'Bust the Budget' in Australia? As always, I am largely in agreement with John's post and blog. However, I do wish to interrogate a little his characterization of the Greens as "neo-liberal". I am no groupie type fan of the Greens having spent years attacking them here in Queensland. In fact, I despise their slogan "Neither Left nor Right but out in Front", as a cover for a refusal to undertake the politics of social justice and to recognize capitalism for what it is. Nonetheless, if there is to be a broad regroupment of those who oppose some or all aspects of neo-liberalism, then the Greens could have a role to play. Moreover, we cannot aid political mobility and growth on the left by labeling those, who do not agree with us fully, as "neo-liberal". We should also recognize that popular opposition to austerity has created tension within the Greens. They may have passed the appropriation bills, but they are committed to oppose aspects of the budget which they formerly were going to endorse. It seems that Greens leader, Christine Milne, was rolled in caucus, and her party will now oppose the rise in petrol prices. I feel the Socialist Alliance strategy of trying to maintain contact with the Greens is much better than the Socialist Alternative method of declaring the Greens anathema. John is no longer a member of the Socialist Alternative, but he has yet to embrace fully this as a rupture with the so-called Leninism of the likes of Mick Armstrong. comradely Gary On Sun, Jul 6, 2014 at 10:29 PM, En Passant with John Passant via Marxism <marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu> wrote: ====================================================================== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. ====================================================================== Where to now for 'Bust the Budget' in Australia? Such has been the success from the bosses' point of view of the class collaboration of the union leadership and movement over the last 30 years that, by and large, most unionists and concerned community members will not even think about taking control of their unions and the protests to bust the budget with strikes, let alone try to do it. Until such time as we do that we will be in a downward cycle of defeat and despair and the alternating puppet show of neoliberal Labor and the neoliberal Coalition in government, aided by the neoliberal Greens. If we don't fight we lose, now and into the future. http://enpassant.com.au/2014/07/06/where-to-now-for-bust-the-budget/ ________________________________________________ Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/gary.maclennan1%40gmail.com ________________________________________________ Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com