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thanks everyone for the examples, keep 'em coming
re Oakland: thanks, Scott, lots of details and analysis to chew over. And I
like the fact that you can walk and chew gum at the same time, i.e. to
discuss the potential semiautonomy of the police without letting that
bourgeois jackass Quan off the hook.

On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 2:25 PM, Scott J. via Marxism <
marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu> wrote:

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> Not as serious as the current NYPD revolt, but there are similarities in a
> police force throwing the mayor under the bus. This article also looks much
> deeper at how the police operate as an independent political institution,
> as a self serving bureaucracy, primarily to the benefit of its staff and
> its leadership, not unlike any government bureaucracy. The police are a
> permanent institution, unlike politicians who come and go, and are
> therefore often more powerful than City Hall.
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> http://libcom.org/library/who-gives-orders-oakland-police-city-hall-occupy
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