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There are two different, even if perhaps slightly overlapping, issues here. One is whether AWL is pro-Zionist and Islamophobic. The answer is yes, without question, and it can be documented if need be. The other is whether AWL's take on Ukraine is accurate. It very well might be. 90% of what the Stalinists in WWP/PSL say is accurate. But as with AWL, interpreting everything they say, and the spin they put on it, requires extra care given their bankrupt politics. On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 10:48 AM, Sergii Kutnii via Marxism < marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu> wrote: > ******************** POSTING RULES & NOTES ******************** > #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. > #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. > #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. > ***************************************************************** > > There's an important cultural difference that comes to play here: > while in the US Jewishness is seen as a religious identity, in the > Eastern Europe it is more of a cultural or ethnic identity so "a > Christian Jew" is not an oxymoron. > Yes, it was not always so, and Jewishness has been defined through > Judaism in pre-1917 Russian Empire but this is an important example of > how an identity can be redefined over time. > > AWL does not, to the best of my knowledge, identify themselves as > Jewish neither in terms of religion nor in terms of culture, so they > don't seem to have a material stake in the conflict. They just have an > idea of how a conflict in a distant land that does not affect them > directly should be resolved. Without a material interest in the > existence of Israel, this is not enough, in my view, to call anyone a > Zionist. > > Should an American who thinks that Scottish independency is a good > idea be called a Scottish nationalist? > _________________________________________________________ > Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm > Set your options at: > http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/acpollack2%40gmail.com > _________________________________________________________ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
