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I've always thought Mandel did a great job of laying out the basics on that question, including as refutation of Bettelheim. One aspect of Mandel's account which I found useful recently: he points to the contradiction between advances in the spheres of production and distribution, and how lags in the latter mean unavoidable dependence on norms of bourgeois equality and right (as Marx had predicted), and how that in turn held back democratic planning of already-socialized production. In a note on intersectionality recently I cited some examples of how Trotsky and others explained what the prevalence of such bourgeois norms meant for the continued need to depend on the family, which is key in that distributive sphere, and helps explain why the socialization of reproduction was crucial for the whole economy. On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 10:43 AM, Louis Proyect via Marxism < marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu> wrote: > ******************** POSTING RULES & NOTES ******************** > #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. > #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. > #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. > ***************************************************************** > > On 3/13/15 10:35 AM, Ahmet Tonak wrote: > >> >> I am in the process of writing a piece on transition to socialism, >> focusing on especially economic programs/steps/stages etc. So, I am >> open to any suggestion. >> >> I also need the bibliographic information about a quote from Lenin that >> I cannot pinpoint. I was something like this: "There is no difference >> between tha last day of capitalism and the first day of socialism." Do >> you remember anything like this? The context and the source? >> > > Hi, Ahmet > > I will take a look later but in the meantime I am forwarding your query to > Marxmail. Someone is bound to have a handle on that there. > > Lou > > _________________________________________________________ > Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm > Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/ > options/marxism/acpollack2%40gmail.com > _________________________________________________________ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com