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On 3/13/15 10:43 AM, Louis Proyect via Marxism wrote:
On 3/13/15 10:35 AM, Ahmet Tonak wrote:
I am in the process of writing a piece on transition to socialism,
focusing on especially economic programs/steps/stages etc. So, I am
open to any suggestion.
I also need the bibliographic information about a quote from Lenin that
I cannot pinpoint. I was something like this: "There is no difference
between tha last day of capitalism and the first day of socialism." Do
you remember anything like this? The context and the source?
Hi, Ahmet
I will take a look later but in the meantime I am forwarding your query
to Marxmail. Someone is bound to have a handle on that there.
Lou
I heard back on this from Lars Lih today:
On 4/1/15 10:50 AM, Lars Lih wrote:
Hi all -- Sorry I haven't responded, the note was sent to my McGill
address, which I rarely consult (I only teach a course there every other
year or so).
You inquire about the following alleged Lenin quote: "There is no
difference between the last day of capitalism and the first day of
socialism."
I don't know this quote -- and in fact, I'm rather skeptical about its
existence. Lenin didn't really concern himself with such questions, and
I can't think of a context where it may have come up. But if I'm proved
wrong -- well, I will have learned something.
Something resembling this sentiment is a main idea of Kautsky's book
/The Day after the Social Revolution/, from 1902 -- Lenin helped get it
published in Russian. But note: note the hazy and metaphysical concepts
of "capitalism" and "socialism", but, more concretely, after the
proletariat comes to power.
And talking about that: I've been writing up Bukharin's book from 1920,
/Economy of the Transition Period/, and his angle, I think, would be
this. On the one hand, the social revolution entails a collapse not only
in the state (smash the state) but in the economy (smash the economy).
This is a "production cost of revolution" and has to be paid. On the
other hand, when a certain new normalcy is achieved, the structures will
/look like/ advanced capitalism (in those days, people thought advanced
capitalism was moving toward a semi-planned economy). On the third
hand, although the structures look the same, it will be fundamentally
different, because a different class will be ruling (as per Dave the
truck-driver). Or, as I summarize his (Bukharin's) view: things will be
fundamentally different -- but /only /fundamentally.
Hope this helps -- LTL
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