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On 24/05/2015 12:52 μμ, Stuart Munckton via Marxism wrote:
My assumption is this is a big defeat for the Church and a symbol and
marker of how much influence it has lost, no doubt in no small part due to
its recurring severe scandals, as well as shifting social views putting it
at odds with younger generation.
I'd be interested to see if this has a flow on in terms of the much more
controversial issue in Ireland of a woman's right to choose, where the laws
remain horrific.
The church (any of them) is surely at odds with the younger people and
although this has been the case for many decades, the fact that a public
discussion is nowadays much more easier than,say, 30 years ago
constitutes a qualitative change to the detriment of the church.
As a result the bourgeois states can not any more defend a direct link
with the church and are all the more reluctant to assume the
responsibility for it, although the church was and largely remains an
effective ideological mechanism. Thus they promote movements like
neoliberal atheism on the social sphere along with a separation on the
legislative sphere: they tent to let the church carry on its usual dirty
job alone and deprived from any constitutional role it used to have in
practice on birth, marriage and death.
Now what happened in the political sphere (the referendum result) is not
so much a defeat of the church from a progressive shift of social views,
but rather a more subtle adaptation of the "real subsumtion" of the
church (and religion) to the capital, and that's why in this Irish
referendum the answer to its second question was reactionary.
JA
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