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Hi Thomas, Sorry about the mistake I made. I did not mean to hurt your feelings. Best, - Amith On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 9:03 PM, Thomas Campbell via Marxism < marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu> wrote: > ******************** POSTING RULES & NOTES ******************** > #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. > #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. > #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. > ***************************************************************** > > Back in the heady days of my adolescence, Ronald Reagan said the problem > with the Russians was that they had no word for "freedom" in their > language. I forget now which of his top-flight national security advisers > or CIA/NSA whiz kids had advised him on this score, or whether the Gipper > had just thought it sounded "right" for the occasion, but there is a word > for "freedom" or "liberty" in Russian, and that word is "svoboda." It's the > same word in Ukrainian. > > Hence, the word, since it existed in fact, was adopted, probably wrongly > and maliciously, by the Russian-language station of the US-funded media > outlet RE/RFL, Radio Svoboda. > > I found the interview with Vlad Kolesnikov, who I really do think should be > an example to anti-war resisters everywhere, on the website of Radio > Svoboda. > > http://www.svoboda.org/content/article/27064318.html > > Kolesnikov gave the interview to Dmitry Volchek, who far from being a > Ukrainian fascist of any sort, is a long-time publisher of underground and > marginal literature in Russian and Russian translation, including LGBT > literature, through his literary almanac Mitin Zhurnal (which started out > as a samizdat publication in Soviet times) and the affiliated Kolonna > Publications imprint: > > http://kolonna.mitin.com/ > > http://rbth.co.uk/literature/2013/07/25/lgbt_literature_under_new_fire_survives_in_russia_28341.html > > I won't go into greater length about Mitya Volchek's great services to > Russian literature and journalism, but if this were a slightly more just > country (and not the fascist cesspool it's quickly becoming, with Marxmail > subscribers like Amith and Roger Annis cheering it on from the sidelines), > then Mitya would be awarded a knighthood or Medal of Freedom or whatever > it's called here in Russia. > > Then I took the interview and translated it from Russian, a language I > speak, read, and write fluently, into English. > > But then I made the big mistake of sharing my translation with this list, > which has far too many self-made "experts" on Russian and Ukrainian affairs > for its own good, including Amith and Roger. > > Where, Amith, was there any indication that either the interview itself, > the brave anti-Putinist TEENAGER Vlad Kolesnikov (who has been speaking > truth to power in the world's biggest country, which has so many nasty > secret and other police that they're stumbling over each other looking for > "dissidents" and "extremists" to crack down on) or the Petersburg-born > Russian Jewish publisher and journalist Dmitry Volchek ( > http://www.jewishgen.org/belarus/rje_v.htm) had anything to do with the > fascist Ukrainian political party Svoboda? > > Just because you're apparently totally ignorant of all things Russian (and > Ukrainian) doesn't mean you get to insult me and my work, and wonderful > people like Vlad Kolesnikov and Mitya Volchek. > > For the record, in 2012, I published a report, on the blog I used to edit, > on an attack by Ukrainian neo-Nazis on a presentation of the leftist > journal Spilne ("Commons") in the city of Ternopil. At the time, it was > alleged that the attack had been coordinated by a member of Svoboda. > > > https://chtodelat.wordpress.com/2012/12/02/ukrainian-neo-nazis-attack-commons-ternopil/ > > Interestingly enough, Marxmail subscriber Sergii Kutnii reported on this > same attack to the list at almost the same time: > > http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.politics.marxism.marxmail/164387 > > I don't remember if I shared my own translation of Spilne's report with the > list as well, and I don't recall that Sergii's dispatch generated any > discussion among list members at all, although as he knows better than me, > Svoboda, their affiliates, and other Ukrainian far-righters and neo-Nazis > were already causing a lot of trouble for Ukrainian leftists and others > already "way" back then. It was just that back then this mattered to almost > no one outside Ukraine, including, I suspect, Roger and Amith. > > But now everyone and their grandmother is an expert on "Ukrainian > fascists," and Amith, a fluent Russian and Ukrainian speaker, just figured > out that I have been aiding and abetting the Svoboda party of Ukraine, the > cause of all evil in the known universe since February 2014. > > I want a full apology from Amith for this digusting insult to my > reputation, competence, and leftist, anti-fascist political convictions. > > Failing that, I want Amith kicked off this list. > > If the moderators are unwilling to do that for any reason, then I'll kick > myself off, because if this is what "Marxism" has come to in the 21st > century, I don't want to have anything to do with it. > _________________________________________________________ > Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm > Set your options at: > http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/amithrgupta%40gmail.com > _________________________________________________________ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
